• Overall, i really liked the finale and thought it was a great episode, however i found it a bit disappointing. 1. Fight needed to be longer-for the two season long build up the end fight at ghe field just wasnt long enough

    2. Rick vs negan fight should have been longer and better as well-it felt a bit anti climatic and very predictable. Also would have liked to see them fight for longer. Their fight in 8x12 was better in my opinion.

    3. Basically no death-a part from some saviors weve never seen before and possibly regina there was no named character deaths which was surprising. I would have expected to see a couple of characters die frim team ahk but literally no one did.

    4. No Heath, Sherry, Helicopter or whisperers-i wasnt expecting to see these things a part from the whisperers but it would have been nice to see heath and sherry return. But i was expecting to see a major teaser for the whisperers. Yes there was the fence that rick and co walked past and the herd and sherrys infinity sign but there was no hardcore whisperer evidence.

    5. When maggie finds out rick will save negan-i am actually happy rick let negan live but in the scene where maggie finds out i dont know if it was bad acting or whatever but it didnt feel right.

    6. Overall needed more-we have been building up to the end of this war for so long and have lost carl, glenn, abe and sasha to do it but it wasnt justified by the episode beause the main parts were soooo predictable and a bit anti climatic in the end.

    Sorry for the rant but what do you think?

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    • No main Character deaths. I believe that Regina, D.J., Norris were killed in the conflict. Rick choosing to let Negan live was stupid, Then Daryl, Maggie, and Jesus are plotting to kill Negan behind Rick's back.

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    • Disappointing is probably the more fair word to use, but I certainly have no qualms calling it straight up bad. The finale is supposed to be the big payoff for all of the various storylines that you write into the season, and literally all of them except Eugene for me were sadly underwhelming. 

      The Big Plan - The reveal of Negan's masterstroke ended up being suprisingly convoluted for something so simple. Make them think we're one place, show up somewhere else and mow them down. Simple right? Well apparently phase 1 is a fake road block, where he plants more evidence of where he'll allegedly be. Problem is, Rick seemingly knows the plans are fake, radios Maggie that they're "changing the plan", but still end up right in Negan's grasp? I was so purplexed....

      The Hilltop - Negan sends all of what, like 15 Saviors to Hilltop, and that's enough for a mass exodus? Are you kidding me? Oceanside's heroic entrance that has been extremely obvious for 2 whole seasons finally happens, and it couldn't have been more anti-climactic. The tomfoolery of throwing fire at the LARGE WOODEN WALLS of their final stronghold aside, they saved a day that didn't even need saving. Tara and Alden's group had those Saviors lined up perfectly, where their adversaries  were coming from a narrow entrance, and her group was firing from a location they couldn't be fully seen from. I don't think Aaron even had a line of dialogue in this "heroic" effort, and speaking of, where were the Oceanside ladies in the closing scenes after the war? Are they not included in this New World? So much buildup. 

      The Big Fight - In all honesty, I think Negan's speech on top of the hill lasted longer than the fight scenes. Not exactly what people were looking for in the climactic battle of a storyline called "All Out War". The only real "fight" was between Rick and Negan, but we'll get to that in a second. Again, the actual war was already over with like halfway through this episode, which was incredibly disappointing. No one of any kind of significance died, so there never really even felt like there were serious stakes. While the resolution of Eugene's storyline was one of the plots that I feel like they actually did masterfully this season, the timing of it couldn't have been more horrible. Once the Saviors' guns backfired, it only took a couple of minutes of them getting blasted before they surrendered. The war was basically over after that, which immediately reduced the stakes of the Rick vs. Negan fight. Rather than having it be something that happened simultaneously with the other fighting going on, they chose to have Allied Forces and surrendered Saviors alike be spectators to the grand duel. Even if Negan had won and killed Rick, the allied forces would still have them outgunned and outmanned, which took away my emotional investment in the fight. Negan was already fighting a losing battle at that point, so his confrontation with Rick didn't hold any stakes for me. The fight was wayyyyy shorter than I wanted it to be as well. Anywho, it was a nice touch that Carl's words from his letter, "It doesn't have to be a fight anymore" really got to Negan, and caused him to drop his guard. It would have been quite fucked up for Negan to actually die after Rick used his son's words as a ruse, so I don't have any issues with Rick letting Negan live of course. Just wanted a better fight when we saw these 2 are capable of it. 

      Morgan - The issue with how AMC and the writers hyped up Morgan's crossover is that it creates monumental expectations. I don't remember when exactly it was revealed that Morgan was leaving for Fear, but it was at some point during Season 8. Before and after however, Morgan's storyline was one that drew a natural curiousity because mental illness isn't something that's often explored on the show. He was already a badass, but his badassery hit it's pinnacle when it became coupled with his peaceful principles. Season 8 was all about the breakdown of those principles, and how he had to compromise when it came to keeping people safe in the face of all out war. He was never quite able to find that balance, and it plagued him the entire season. However, rather than have Morgan explore interesting ways out of AND in to coping with his budding schizophrenia, they just had him gradually come to terms with the fact that he wasn't right in the head. I felt like they used his condition more as a prop rather than an actual aspect of who he was as a person. We never really got to learn or see anything new about Morgan this entire season, it was just constant cycles of him going beast mode, and then spurts of acceptance and non-acceptance of what he's become/becoming. We've already seen Morgan be crazy. That's nothing new. We've seen Morgan be peaceful. That's nothing new. Morgan's character ultimately regressed as a result of this season, which isn't what you want to see from a character that had lasted this long. Being the crazy solitary guy was how he ended up in the Looney Toons hideout, so for that to be how they once again send him off.....so much buildup yet again....

      The Conspirators - A plot behind Rick's back from lead characters, after the biggest war they've ever fought together? These guys can't be serious. The show's gone 8 seasons now, and Daryl & Maggie have been here for just about all 8 of them! How is it that these guys STILL can't talk out their issues like the brothers and sisters they are and come up with a plan on how to move forward? To scheme behind the back of the man that said he was going to relinquish power to Maggie in the first place.....Wanting Negan dead makes sense for both of their characters, but plotting against Rick does not. Where the fuck did Jesus even come from, since when is he about killing ANYONE? I truly hope that this isn't how they're planning on dealing with Maggie after the contract drama, though I can't say I care a whole lot if this gets Daryl killed eventually. 

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    • Mitt Campbell wrote:
      No main Character deaths. I believe that Regina, D.J., Norris were killed in the conflict. Rick choosing to let Negan live was stupid, Then Daryl, Maggie, and Jesus are plotting to kill Negan behind Rick's back.

      Stupid or not, it was always going to happen. They've been planning to spare him from the moment Negan was spared in the comics most likely. Plus Jeffrey Dean Morgan is a desireable actor these days it seems.

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    • HRHannan wrote:
      Overall, i really liked the finale and thought it was a great episode, however i found it a bit disappointing.

      1. Fight needed to be longer-for the two season long build up the end fight at ghe field just wasnt long enough

      2. Rick vs negan fight should have been longer and better as well-it felt a bit anti climatic and very predictable. Also would have liked to see them fight for longer. Their fight in 8x12 was better in my opinion.

      3. Basically no death-a part from some saviors weve never seen before and possibly regina there was no named character deaths which was surprising. I would have expected to see a couple of characters die frim team ahk but literally no one did.

      4. No Heath, Sherry, Helicopter or whisperers-i wasnt expecting to see these things a part from the whisperers but it would have been nice to see heath and sherry return. But i was expecting to see a major teaser for the whisperers. Yes there was the fence that rick and co walked past and the herd and sherrys infinity sign but there was no hardcore whisperer evidence.

      5. When maggie finds out rick will save negan-i am actually happy rick let negan live but in the scene where maggie finds out i dont know if it was bad acting or whatever but it didnt feel right.

      6. Overall needed more-we have been building up to the end of this war for so long and have lost carl, glenn, abe and sasha to do it but it wasnt justified by the episode beause the main parts were soooo predictable and a bit anti climatic in the end.

      Sorry for the rant but what do you think?

      you listen to to much people on youtube hype it up.  I mean it's not a bad episode not the best but death of major characters don't make finales good or bad

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    • HRHannan wrote:
      Overall, i really liked the finale and thought it was a great episode, however i found it a bit disappointing.

      1. Fight needed to be longer-for the two season long build up the end fight at ghe field just wasnt long enough

      2. Rick vs negan fight should have been longer and better as well-it felt a bit anti climatic and very predictable. Also would have liked to see them fight for longer. Their fight in 8x12 was better in my opinion.

      3. Basically no death-a part from some saviors weve never seen before and possibly regina there was no named character deaths which was surprising. I would have expected to see a couple of characters die frim team ahk but literally no one did.

      4. No Heath, Sherry, Helicopter or whisperers-i wasnt expecting to see these things a part from the whisperers but it would have been nice to see heath and sherry return. But i was expecting to see a major teaser for the whisperers. Yes there was the fence that rick and co walked past and the herd and sherrys infinity sign but there was no hardcore whisperer evidence.

      5. When maggie finds out rick will save negan-i am actually happy rick let negan live but in the scene where maggie finds out i dont know if it was bad acting or whatever but it didnt feel right.

      6. Overall needed more-we have been building up to the end of this war for so long and have lost carl, glenn, abe and sasha to do it but it wasnt justified by the episode beause the main parts were soooo predictable and a bit anti climatic in the end.

      Sorry for the rant but what do you think?

      you listen to to much people on youtube hype it up.  I mean it's not a bad episode not the best but death of major characters don't make finales good or bad

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    • Narutorulez wrote:

      HRHannan wrote:
      Overall, i really liked the finale and thought it was a great episode, however i found it a bit disappointing.

      1. Fight needed to be longer-for the two season long build up the end fight at ghe field just wasnt long enough

      2. Rick vs negan fight should have been longer and better as well-it felt a bit anti climatic and very predictable. Also would have liked to see them fight for longer. Their fight in 8x12 was better in my opinion.

      3. Basically no death-a part from some saviors weve never seen before and possibly regina there was no named character deaths which was surprising. I would have expected to see a couple of characters die frim team ahk but literally no one did.

      4. No Heath, Sherry, Helicopter or whisperers-i wasnt expecting to see these things a part from the whisperers but it would have been nice to see heath and sherry return. But i was expecting to see a major teaser for the whisperers. Yes there was the fence that rick and co walked past and the herd and sherrys infinity sign but there was no hardcore whisperer evidence.

      5. When maggie finds out rick will save negan-i am actually happy rick let negan live but in the scene where maggie finds out i dont know if it was bad acting or whatever but it didnt feel right.

      6. Overall needed more-we have been building up to the end of this war for so long and have lost carl, glenn, abe and sasha to do it but it wasnt justified by the episode beause the main parts were soooo predictable and a bit anti climatic in the end.

      Sorry for the rant but what do you think?

      you listen to to much people on youtube hype it up.  I mean it's not a bad episode not the best but death of major characters don't make finales good or bad

      I wasnt asking for a main character to be killed off but in the finale there was no deaths on rick’s side which felt unrealistic because it was all out war. Even if someone like kal died i would have been happy.

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    • HRHannan wrote:

      Narutorulez wrote:

      HRHannan wrote:
      Overall, i really liked the finale and thought it was a great episode, however i found it a bit disappointing.

      1. Fight needed to be longer-for the two season long build up the end fight at ghe field just wasnt long enough

      2. Rick vs negan fight should have been longer and better as well-it felt a bit anti climatic and very predictable. Also would have liked to see them fight for longer. Their fight in 8x12 was better in my opinion.

      3. Basically no death-a part from some saviors weve never seen before and possibly regina there was no named character deaths which was surprising. I would have expected to see a couple of characters die frim team ahk but literally no one did.

      4. No Heath, Sherry, Helicopter or whisperers-i wasnt expecting to see these things a part from the whisperers but it would have been nice to see heath and sherry return. But i was expecting to see a major teaser for the whisperers. Yes there was the fence that rick and co walked past and the herd and sherrys infinity sign but there was no hardcore whisperer evidence.

      5. When maggie finds out rick will save negan-i am actually happy rick let negan live but in the scene where maggie finds out i dont know if it was bad acting or whatever but it didnt feel right.

      6. Overall needed more-we have been building up to the end of this war for so long and have lost carl, glenn, abe and sasha to do it but it wasnt justified by the episode beause the main parts were soooo predictable and a bit anti climatic in the end.

      Sorry for the rant but what do you think?

      you listen to to much people on youtube hype it up.  I mean it's not a bad episode not the best but death of major characters don't make finales good or bad
      I wasnt asking for a main character to be killed off but in the finale there was no deaths on rick’s side which felt unrealistic because it was all out war. Even if someone like kal died i would have been happy.

      What's with you people and Kal dying. Kal deserves to live.

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    • RazeSpear wrote:

      HRHannan wrote:

      Narutorulez wrote:

      HRHannan wrote:
      Overall, i really liked the finale and thought it was a great episode, however i found it a bit disappointing.

      1. Fight needed to be longer-for the two season long build up the end fight at ghe field just wasnt long enough

      2. Rick vs negan fight should have been longer and better as well-it felt a bit anti climatic and very predictable. Also would have liked to see them fight for longer. Their fight in 8x12 was better in my opinion.

      3. Basically no death-a part from some saviors weve never seen before and possibly regina there was no named character deaths which was surprising. I would have expected to see a couple of characters die frim team ahk but literally no one did.

      4. No Heath, Sherry, Helicopter or whisperers-i wasnt expecting to see these things a part from the whisperers but it would have been nice to see heath and sherry return. But i was expecting to see a major teaser for the whisperers. Yes there was the fence that rick and co walked past and the herd and sherrys infinity sign but there was no hardcore whisperer evidence.

      5. When maggie finds out rick will save negan-i am actually happy rick let negan live but in the scene where maggie finds out i dont know if it was bad acting or whatever but it didnt feel right.

      6. Overall needed more-we have been building up to the end of this war for so long and have lost carl, glenn, abe and sasha to do it but it wasnt justified by the episode beause the main parts were soooo predictable and a bit anti climatic in the end.

      Sorry for the rant but what do you think?

      you listen to to much people on youtube hype it up.  I mean it's not a bad episode not the best but death of major characters don't make finales good or bad
      I wasnt asking for a main character to be killed off but in the finale there was no deaths on rick’s side which felt unrealistic because it was all out war. Even if someone like kal died i would have been happy.

      What's with you people and Kal dying. Kal deserves to live.

      Yeah but he died similar in the comics at the final battle so i was using him as an example.

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    • RazeSpear wrote:

      Mitt Campbell wrote:
      No main Character deaths. I believe that Regina, D.J., Norris were killed in the conflict. Rick choosing to let Negan live was stupid, Then Daryl, Maggie, and Jesus are plotting to kill Negan behind Rick's back.

      Stupid or not, it was always going to happen. They've been planning to spare him from the moment Negan was spared in the comics most likely. Plus Jeffery Dean Morgan is a desireable actor these days it seems.

      What does Jeffrey Dean Morgan being a desireable actor have to do with anything?

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    • Mitt Campbell wrote:

      RazeSpear wrote:



      Mitt Campbell wrote:
      No main Character deaths. I believe that Regina, D.J., Norris were killed in the conflict. Rick choosing to let Negan live was stupid, Then Daryl, Maggie, and Jesus are plotting to kill Negan behind Rick's back.
      Stupid or not, it was always going to happen. They've been planning to spare him from the moment Negan was spared in the comics most likely. Plus Jeffery Dean Morgan is a desireable actor these days it seems.
      What does Jeffrey Dean Morgan being a desireable actor have to do with anything?

      That this was always going to happen. They weren't even considering killing him in the finale. As far as the showrunners are concerned, Jeffrey is an ace up their sleeve. Doubt he'll die next season either. Maybe if there's a Season 10.

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    • RazeSpear wrote:

      Mitt Campbell wrote:

      RazeSpear wrote:


      Mitt Campbell wrote:
      No main Character deaths. I believe that Regina, D.J., Norris were killed in the conflict. Rick choosing to let Negan live was stupid, Then Daryl, Maggie, and Jesus are plotting to kill Negan behind Rick's back.
      Stupid or not, it was always going to happen. They've been planning to spare him from the moment Negan was spared in the comics most likely. Plus Jeffery Dean Morgan is a desireable actor these days it seems.
      What does Jeffrey Dean Morgan being a desireable actor have to do with anything?

      That this was always going to happen. They weren't even considering killing him in the finale. As far as they're concerned, Jeffery is an ace up their sleeve.

      You didn't answer the question?

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    • Mitt Campbell wrote:

      RazeSpear wrote:


      Mitt Campbell wrote:

      RazeSpear wrote:




      Mitt Campbell wrote:
      No main Character deaths. I believe that Regina, D.J., Norris were killed in the conflict. Rick choosing to let Negan live was stupid, Then Daryl, Maggie, and Jesus are plotting to kill Negan behind Rick's back.
      Stupid or not, it was always going to happen. They've been planning to spare him from the moment Negan was spared in the comics most likely. Plus Jeffery Dean Morgan is a desireable actor these days it seems.
      What does Jeffrey Dean Morgan being a desireable actor have to do with anything?
      That this was always going to happen. They weren't even considering killing him in the finale. As far as they're concerned, Jeffery is an ace up their sleeve.
      You didn't answer the question?

      That was the answer. They like him too much to kill his character off, so to think they would even consider killing Negan off in the first place is ill-thought. You really didn't think there was a chance it would happen this season, did you?

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    • RazeSpear wrote:

      Mitt Campbell wrote:

      RazeSpear wrote:


      Mitt Campbell wrote:

      RazeSpear wrote:




      Mitt Campbell wrote:
      No main Character deaths. I believe that Regina, D.J., Norris were killed in the conflict. Rick choosing to let Negan live was stupid, Then Daryl, Maggie, and Jesus are plotting to kill Negan behind Rick's back.
      Stupid or not, it was always going to happen. They've been planning to spare him from the moment Negan was spared in the comics most likely. Plus Jeffery Dean Morgan is a desireable actor these days it seems.
      What does Jeffrey Dean Morgan being a desireable actor have to do with anything?
      That this was always going to happen. They weren't even considering killing him in the finale. As far as they're concerned, Jeffery is an ace up their sleeve.
      You didn't answer the question?

      That was the answer. They like him too much to kill his character off, so to think they would even consider killing Negan off in the first place is ill-thought. You really didn't think there was a chance it would happen this season, did you?

      No it wasn't the answer to the question. I said what does Jeffrey Dean Morgan being a desirable actor have to do with anything?

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    • Mitt Campbell wrote:

      RazeSpear wrote:


      Mitt Campbell wrote:

      RazeSpear wrote:



      Mitt Campbell wrote:

      RazeSpear wrote:





      Mitt Campbell wrote:
      No main Character deaths. I believe that Regina, D.J., Norris were killed in the conflict. Rick choosing to let Negan live was stupid, Then Daryl, Maggie, and Jesus are plotting to kill Negan behind Rick's back.
      Stupid or not, it was always going to happen. They've been planning to spare him from the moment Negan was spared in the comics most likely. Plus Jeffery Dean Morgan is a desireable actor these days it seems.
      What does Jeffrey Dean Morgan being a desireable actor have to do with anything?
      That this was always going to happen. They weren't even considering killing him in the finale. As far as they're concerned, Jeffery is an ace up their sleeve.
      You didn't answer the question?
      That was the answer. They like him too much to kill his character off, so to think they would even consider killing Negan off in the first place is ill-thought. You really didn't think there was a chance it would happen this season, did you?
      No it wasn't the answer to the question. I said what does Jeffrey Dean Morgan being a desirable actor have to do with anything?

      It has to do with their decision to spare his character, which you expressed disbelief at, as if they were actually considering killing Negan off. Rick was always going to spare Negan, so there's no point calling the decision stupid. Most people came to terms with that in Season 5.

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    • RazeSpear wrote:

      Mitt Campbell wrote:

      RazeSpear wrote:


      Mitt Campbell wrote:

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      Mitt Campbell wrote:

      RazeSpear wrote:





      Mitt Campbell wrote:
      No main Character deaths. I believe that Regina, D.J., Norris were killed in the conflict. Rick choosing to let Negan live was stupid, Then Daryl, Maggie, and Jesus are plotting to kill Negan behind Rick's back.
      Stupid or not, it was always going to happen. They've been planning to spare him from the moment Negan was spared in the comics most likely. Plus Jeffery Dean Morgan is a desireable actor these days it seems.
      What does Jeffrey Dean Morgan being a desireable actor have to do with anything?
      That this was always going to happen. They weren't even considering killing him in the finale. As far as they're concerned, Jeffery is an ace up their sleeve.
      You didn't answer the question?
      That was the answer. They like him too much to kill his character off, so to think they would even consider killing Negan off in the first place is ill-thought. You really didn't think there was a chance it would happen this season, did you?
      No it wasn't the answer to the question. I said what does Jeffrey Dean Morgan being a desirable actor have to do with anything?

      It has to do with their decision to spare his character, which you expressed disbelief at, as if they were actually considering killing Negan off. Rick was always going to spare Negan, so there's no point calling the decision stupid. Most people came to terms with that in Season 5.

      My question was about the actor, not the character!

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    • Mitt Campbell wrote:

      RazeSpear wrote:

      Mitt Campbell wrote:

      RazeSpear wrote:


      Mitt Campbell wrote:

      RazeSpear wrote:




      Mitt Campbell wrote:

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      Mitt Campbell wrote:
      No main Character deaths. I believe that Regina, D.J., Norris were killed in the conflict. Rick choosing to let Negan live was stupid, Then Daryl, Maggie, and Jesus are plotting to kill Negan behind Rick's back.
      Stupid or not, it was always going to happen. They've been planning to spare him from the moment Negan was spared in the comics most likely. Plus Jeffery Dean Morgan is a desireable actor these days it seems.
      What does Jeffrey Dean Morgan being a desireable actor have to do with anything?
      That this was always going to happen. They weren't even considering killing him in the finale. As far as they're concerned, Jeffery is an ace up their sleeve.
      You didn't answer the question?
      That was the answer. They like him too much to kill his character off, so to think they would even consider killing Negan off in the first place is ill-thought. You really didn't think there was a chance it would happen this season, did you?
      No it wasn't the answer to the question. I said what does Jeffrey Dean Morgan being a desirable actor have to do with anything?
      It has to do with their decision to spare his character, which you expressed disbelief at, as if they were actually considering killing Negan off. Rick was always going to spare Negan, so there's no point calling the decision stupid. Most people came to terms with that in Season 5.
      My question was about the actor, not the character!

      They go hand in hand. They complement eachother.

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    • RazeSpear wrote:

      Mitt Campbell wrote:

      RazeSpear wrote:

      Mitt Campbell wrote:

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      Mitt Campbell wrote:

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      Mitt Campbell wrote:

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      Mitt Campbell wrote:
      No main Character deaths. I believe that Regina, D.J., Norris were killed in the conflict. Rick choosing to let Negan live was stupid, Then Daryl, Maggie, and Jesus are plotting to kill Negan behind Rick's back.
      Stupid or not, it was always going to happen. They've been planning to spare him from the moment Negan was spared in the comics most likely. Plus Jeffery Dean Morgan is a desireable actor these days it seems.
      What does Jeffrey Dean Morgan being a desireable actor have to do with anything?
      That this was always going to happen. They weren't even considering killing him in the finale. As far as they're concerned, Jeffery is an ace up their sleeve.
      You didn't answer the question?
      That was the answer. They like him too much to kill his character off, so to think they would even consider killing Negan off in the first place is ill-thought. You really didn't think there was a chance it would happen this season, did you?
      No it wasn't the answer to the question. I said what does Jeffrey Dean Morgan being a desirable actor have to do with anything?
      It has to do with their decision to spare his character, which you expressed disbelief at, as if they were actually considering killing Negan off. Rick was always going to spare Negan, so there's no point calling the decision stupid. Most people came to terms with that in Season 5.
      My question was about the actor, not the character!

      They go hand in hand. They complement eachother.

      Im pretty sure thats not the way it works!

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    • Mitt Campbell wrote:

      RazeSpear wrote:

      Mitt Campbell wrote:

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      Mitt Campbell wrote:

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      Mitt Campbell wrote:

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      Mitt Campbell wrote:

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      Mitt Campbell wrote:
      No main Character deaths. I believe that Regina, D.J., Norris were killed in the conflict. Rick choosing to let Negan live was stupid, Then Daryl, Maggie, and Jesus are plotting to kill Negan behind Rick's back.
      Stupid or not, it was always going to happen. They've been planning to spare him from the moment Negan was spared in the comics most likely. Plus Jeffery Dean Morgan is a desireable actor these days it seems.
      What does Jeffrey Dean Morgan being a desireable actor have to do with anything?
      That this was always going to happen. They weren't even considering killing him in the finale. As far as they're concerned, Jeffery is an ace up their sleeve.
      You didn't answer the question?
      That was the answer. They like him too much to kill his character off, so to think they would even consider killing Negan off in the first place is ill-thought. You really didn't think there was a chance it would happen this season, did you?
      No it wasn't the answer to the question. I said what does Jeffrey Dean Morgan being a desirable actor have to do with anything?
      It has to do with their decision to spare his character, which you expressed disbelief at, as if they were actually considering killing Negan off. Rick was always going to spare Negan, so there's no point calling the decision stupid. Most people came to terms with that in Season 5.
      My question was about the actor, not the character!
      They go hand in hand. They complement eachother.
      Im pretty sure thats not the way it works!

      When an actor and role suit eachother, you hold on to that. That's how it generally works.

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    • RazeSpear wrote:

      Mitt Campbell wrote:

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      Mitt Campbell wrote:

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      Mitt Campbell wrote:

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      Mitt Campbell wrote:
      No main Character deaths. I believe that Regina, D.J., Norris were killed in the conflict. Rick choosing to let Negan live was stupid, Then Daryl, Maggie, and Jesus are plotting to kill Negan behind Rick's back.
      Stupid or not, it was always going to happen. They've been planning to spare him from the moment Negan was spared in the comics most likely. Plus Jeffery Dean Morgan is a desireable actor these days it seems.
      What does Jeffrey Dean Morgan being a desireable actor have to do with anything?
      That this was always going to happen. They weren't even considering killing him in the finale. As far as they're concerned, Jeffery is an ace up their sleeve.
      You didn't answer the question?
      That was the answer. They like him too much to kill his character off, so to think they would even consider killing Negan off in the first place is ill-thought. You really didn't think there was a chance it would happen this season, did you?
      No it wasn't the answer to the question. I said what does Jeffrey Dean Morgan being a desirable actor have to do with anything?
      It has to do with their decision to spare his character, which you expressed disbelief at, as if they were actually considering killing Negan off. Rick was always going to spare Negan, so there's no point calling the decision stupid. Most people came to terms with that in Season 5.
      My question was about the actor, not the character!
      They go hand in hand. They complement eachother.
      Im pretty sure thats not the way it works!

      When an actor and role suit eachother, you hold on to that. That's how it generally works.

      Ok. Whatever!

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    • Mitt Campbell wrote:

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      No main Character deaths. I believe that Regina, D.J., Norris were killed in the conflict. Rick choosing to let Negan live was stupid, Then Daryl, Maggie, and Jesus are plotting to kill Negan behind Rick's back.
      Stupid or not, it was always going to happen. They've been planning to spare him from the moment Negan was spared in the comics most likely. Plus Jeffery Dean Morgan is a desireable actor these days it seems.
      What does Jeffrey Dean Morgan being a desireable actor have to do with anything?
      That this was always going to happen. They weren't even considering killing him in the finale. As far as they're concerned, Jeffery is an ace up their sleeve.
      You didn't answer the question?
      That was the answer. They like him too much to kill his character off, so to think they would even consider killing Negan off in the first place is ill-thought. You really didn't think there was a chance it would happen this season, did you?
      No it wasn't the answer to the question. I said what does Jeffrey Dean Morgan being a desirable actor have to do with anything?
      It has to do with their decision to spare his character, which you expressed disbelief at, as if they were actually considering killing Negan off. Rick was always going to spare Negan, so there's no point calling the decision stupid. Most people came to terms with that in Season 5.
      My question was about the actor, not the character!
      They go hand in hand. They complement eachother.
      Im pretty sure thats not the way it works!

      When an actor and role suit eachother, you hold on to that. That's how it generally works.

      Ok. Whatever!

      That was so painful to read.

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    • I've only just caught up and despite being a general downer about the show, I have liked parts of S8 and I loved the episode of Fear, but the finale was a new low for me.

      It almost felt like they filmed a finale and hated it so they made a new one on a tiny budget as fast as possible. It felt so 'off' to me, like this episode had been filmed by a different crew entirely.

      The acting, cinematography, action, stunts, location etc etc were just all terrible, and I hate to be mean to hundreds of working professionals trying their best, but to me this is the worst they've gone in the show's lifetime. Not only did what everyone predicted would happen actually happen, but in a way so averagely vanilla it hurt to watch the war go out with a whimper. Perhaps my personal favourite bad moment involved after the fight between Negan and Rick ended the camera pans to show how awkwardly close the others were, just watching. Why wouldn't they help, or just kill Negan from where they were standing. What if Rick had just died in front of them as they watched? It's all idiotic and badly planned, and the pacing of the season meant the oceanside's final help in the battle two years in the making amounted to nothing. I want to make a list of everything I hated with this episode but I honestly don't have the time or effort.

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      Mitt Campbell wrote:

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      Mitt Campbell wrote:
      No main Character deaths. I believe that Regina, D.J., Norris were killed in the conflict. Rick choosing to let Negan live was stupid, Then Daryl, Maggie, and Jesus are plotting to kill Negan behind Rick's back.
      Stupid or not, it was always going to happen. They've been planning to spare him from the moment Negan was spared in the comics most likely. Plus Jeffery Dean Morgan is a desireable actor these days it seems.
      What does Jeffrey Dean Morgan being a desireable actor have to do with anything?
      That this was always going to happen. They weren't even considering killing him in the finale. As far as they're concerned, Jeffery is an ace up their sleeve.
      You didn't answer the question?
      That was the answer. They like him too much to kill his character off, so to think they would even consider killing Negan off in the first place is ill-thought. You really didn't think there was a chance it would happen this season, did you?
      No it wasn't the answer to the question. I said what does Jeffrey Dean Morgan being a desirable actor have to do with anything?
      It has to do with their decision to spare his character, which you expressed disbelief at, as if they were actually considering killing Negan off. Rick was always going to spare Negan, so there's no point calling the decision stupid. Most people came to terms with that in Season 5.
      My question was about the actor, not the character!
      They go hand in hand. They complement eachother.
      Im pretty sure thats not the way it works!
      When an actor and role suit eachother, you hold on to that. That's how it generally works.
      Ok. Whatever!

      That was so painful to read.

      Thank you

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    • The finale was alright, but its the little things that count imo

      Eg. When Tara and Rosita went to the sanctuary, it shouldve shown undead Simon

      And what happened to Gregory?

      Even if storylines are resolved, these little things undo it altogether personally

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    • MoralesLives wrote:
      The finale was alright, but its the little things that count imo

      Eg. When Tara and Rosita went to the sanctuary, it shouldve shown undead Simon

      And what happened to Gregory?

      Even if storylines are resolved, these little things undo it altogether personally

      The Saviors were mostly injured and the people they had previously enslaved were paying a visit. I think they just cleaned up a little. The Walker Fence might not imply friendliness.

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    • MoralesLives wrote: Eg. When Tara and Rosita went to the sanctuary, it shouldve shown undead Simon

      It was clear they are cleaning up/rebuilding hence the new gardens outside, the removal of the traps/walkers on the fence, and the glass delivery to help repair the windows. Undead Simon and the others were put down and disposed of. The Sanctuary is re-born as a post-Negan community, not at war with AHK anymore.

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    • Mistertrouble189 wrote:

      MoralesLives wrote: Eg. When Tara and Rosita went to the sanctuary, it shouldve shown undead Simon

      It was clear they are cleaning up/rebuilding hence the new gardens outside, the removal of the traps/walkers on the fence, and the glass delivery to help repair the windows. Undead Simon and the others were put down and disposed of. The Sanctuary is re-born as a post-Negan community, not at war with AHK anymore.

      I still think it couldve shown them cleaning up the undead fence and we get to see Simon be the last walker to be put down disposed of

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    • A lot of cryabys I see....

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    • When the show follows the comics it sucks... when the show doesn't follow the comics it still sucks... do you guys even know what you want from your life??

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    • BIGBROBILI wrote:
      When the show follows the comics it sucks... when the show doesn't follow the comics it still sucks... do you guys even know what you want from your life??

      Season 1, Episode 1 through Season 8, Episode 7: "I hate Carl. Why won't he just stop getting people killed?"

      ​​​​​​*Carl dies*

      Season 8, Episode 8 on: "I hate the writers. Why did they kill one of the best characters?"

      -_-

      Okay, enough joking aside, it's incredible how a lot of inconsistency there is among fans. Not every fan, mind you. I know why a LOT of people don't like the series now and I can respect that. But some arguments people make just don't make sense.

      I mean, people hate the Whisperers, yet people are excited to see them in the show?

      Like... what?

      Some people act like the show always sucked. Yet I've seen those same people praising the show in the past. Makes no sense... don't hate without good reasoning. Or at least, without consistent reasoning.

      I at least advise people to have faith that the new showrunner, Angela Kang, will help things. I mean, Scott Gimple may have gotten a promotion, but Fear The Walking Dead also got some new showrunners. Two new guys. And Season 4 is already interesting and packing a lot of promise. So that gives me faith. Especially considering Angela Kang has written/co-written some of the best episodes in the series ("Still" too, but one bad episode does not define her writing skills).

      It's not fun being a pessimist. You can dislike the show, yes. All the power to you. But don't be so hopeless. If you're that hopeless (or that inconsistent) then just give up...

      I'm still an optimist. I think the show will get better. Might not be as massive as Season 5 again, but I think it'll definitely get up in the ratings again. One day.

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    • KeepOnKeepingOn wrote:
      BIGBROBILI wrote:
      When the show follows the comics it sucks... when the show doesn't follow the comics it still sucks... do you guys even know what you want from your life??
      Season 1, Episode 1 through Season 8, Episode 7: "I hate Carl. Why won't he just stop getting people killed?"

      ​​​​​​*Carl dies*

      Season 8, Episode 8 on: "I hate the writers. Why did they kill one of the best characters?"

      -_-

      Okay, enough joking aside, it's incredible how a lot of inconsistency there is among fans. Not every fan, mind you. I know why a LOT of people don't like the series now and I can respect that. But some arguments people make just don't make sense.

      I mean, people hate the Whisperers, yet people are excited to see them in the show?

      Like... what?

      Some people act like the show always sucked. Yet I've seen those same people praising the show in the past. Makes no sense... don't hate without good reasoning. Or at least, without consistent reasoning.

      I at least advise people to have faith that the new showrunner, Angela Kang, will help things. I mean, Scott Gimple may have gotten a promotion, but Fear The Walking Dead also got some new showrunners. Two new guys. And Season 4 is already interesting and packing a lot of promise. So that gives me faith. Especially considering Angela Kang has written/co-written some of the best episodes in the series ("Still" too, but one bad episode does not define her writing skills).

      It's not fun being a pessimist. You can dislike the show, yes. All the power to you. But don't be so hopeless. If you're that hopeless (or that inconsistent) then just give up...

      I'm still an optimist. I think the show will get better. Might not be as massive as Season 5 again, but I think it'll definitely get up in the ratings again. One day.

      COMPLETELY agree with everything you said... I just wanted to say that I was one of the few people (TRULY few people) that actually enjoyed this season... and every single time I try to explain why I liked this season, an asshole appears and says that I'm high for liking the season and that the season is total trash, a piece of garbage e.t.c. I quited commenting on Youtube, I quited visiting IMDb's page to watch the show's reviews, I quited reading reviews for the new episodes and all these because I couldn't handle the hate (and a lot of times the unfair hate) the show was getting anymore... it made me literally sick... and I thought that I could finally like the show in peace, but now I see that the plague has expanded to this wiki too... *sighs... The last thing I wanted to say is that people were asking for a season with action, as the previous season was slower paced. When they finally got what they wanted they were still not happy and they voted this season, as the worst season, not only in The Walking Dead history, but overall in the tv history with the excuse that it had WAY too much action and they wanted a more peaceful season, without action LOL. Now people are asking for the Whisperers (who Whisperers btw sucked very bad in the comics) and when they eventually get them they still won't be happy and they are gonna say that they miss the previous seasons, INCLUDING season 8... which is a hilarious think if you really think about it... and when Anglela Kang becomes hated (and she probably will like all the showrunners of course) people will be asking Gimple to come back once again to save the show LOL ...WOW people... just PATHETIC... at this point... STOP WATCHING THE DAMN SHOW AND LET THE REAL FANS LIKE ME ENJOY IT!!!

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