I mean I like the Kenny endings the most but I just don't like that Jane is getting so much shit. Just for having sex and making a stupid mistake. Yet forgot she was SO useful. Don't forget Kenny killed Larry and didn't give a shit about how Lily would feel about losing her father. And at that time he didn't even lose anyone and later acts like he's the only one who lost people. If people can forgive Kenny for these things, then they should forgive Jane too.
Seriously first everyone is like "Badass, awesome" when she showed the Knee trick and now she's a cheap bitch for using tricks.
Well, that sex part ain't the only thing that is making her get the hate of people, you see, she hid that baby to prove a point and to kill Kenny claiming self defense, you can see that when you notice that she is fighting like if that was an deathmatch since the beginning, since she is using her "cheap tricks" and weapons (like her knife) when Kenny seemed to only want to knock some sense into her (since he initially only forced her against the wall, he could eventually want to choke her, but we don't know that) so no, the stupid mistakes that she made before ain't the reason that she is getting hate now. About Kenny, dude, do you really think that Larry had any chance of coming back? That guy needed nitroglycerin pills just to come back from an tachycardia, so, only by knowing that, we know that he would need full-CPR and equipment (Defibrillator) to come back, not only cardiac massage, and is not only that, as he has an corporal mass that would need a whole lot of pressure to make this blood flow through his body again, but he would continue not able to get up and help anything, because his cardiac muscle would continue contracted. Kenny asked for sorry a million times, but all that Lilly could do, even weeks after what happened, was treat him like shit, what could he do? Kneel and beg for her mercy? If she didn't wanted to accept, he just left her be. Kenny never pretended to be the only one who lost people, gosh, you people think that someone could recover immediatly from an losses like his? In fact, Kenny recovered kinda fast from the loss of his family (2-3 days, maximum) and from the loss of his girlfriend (1 and a half day) and you guys come saying something like this? Kenny gives his blood for the safety of the group, do the tough choices that no one is able to make and you guys think that he pretends to be the only one who lost people? Come on, the man just needed a little time to recover, thats why he flip out on Clementine, but he apologize in Episode 4 if you stay silent in the tent or in Episode 5 when you change his bandages. Kenny situation and Jane situation are not comparable dude, analyze carefully and you'll see.
But my point was. Why not Jane? Why is it not compareable? Less screentime?
Why can't we analise Janes situation? She didn't know Kenny as long as Clementine and the audience. She mostly saw his crazy side, in Carvers place she probably didn't pay attention to anyone. She judged him too early and saw him as a treath. Seeing him beating Arvo to death is not helping. She's careful person because of all the shit she has seen. And she wanted to save Clementine from the Kenny she thought was too dangerous to be arund with. She thought that Clementine was too attached to Kenny and couldn't see what he's become. Remember I said "she thought" this is "her point of view" and not the truth. She hid the baby and that was a stupid plan. Know why? She didn't thought it trough she just came up with it at the moment and just did it. She was desperate. Don't say she cloud've stopped it at a crazy moment like this. Kenny is not the only one who is allowed to lose his head. Kenny trying to kill her prooved her point to her. She realized later that her plan was stupid she apologised too.
She acted out of emotion this entire episode. If she had stayed cold and logical, she wouldn't have returned at all. But she came back for Clementine. She tried to save Clementine from someone who wich "she thought" was too dangerous. So out of whim, she came up with that stupid baby plan. She was SURE (her perspektive) that Kenny was dangerous and wanted to save Clementine. She acted out of emotion and always was afraid to get hurt again, by losing someone again. She opened up to Clementine and talked about her bad times. She had hope to be with someone again and not being alone anymore. (If she didn't care about being alone she wouldn't have returned.) But there is a chance for her not getting an happy ending.
And nobody considered it sad. Fans hate her and she's a bitch, forever. "what should she do? Kneel and beg for her mercy? "
You can constantly say tell Jane that Kenny isn't crazy and that he is fine, but she ignores it without analyzing the whole situation, forming opinions from just a part of the real situation, you see, Arvo's situation, Kenny finally had the chance of getting along with Luke after his birthday and i bet that he recognized that despite all the shit that he had done, he was a cool guy and celebrated his birthday, then, he saw that he just got killed because of Arvo (If he had rounded the lake instead of wenting straight through it, nothing of that would ever happen) so, he who was already pissed of Arvo get even more and when they finally found the house, they discover that it only had few supplies and nothing more, he gets even more pissed at Arvo and then Arvo start telling him "Fuck you", testing his patience, until the time that he gets extremely pissed and beat him, so, Jane walks in right at the time that he is beating him and form her opinion parting from that moment on and ignore any contrary opinions, just like if you tell her in the car to stop making Kenny mad, and she tells you "You're just like him". Kenny is not the only allowed to lose his head? Yes, but i didn't saw he do shit like that when he lost his head, hide the baby to prove a point and then use a knife against someone else who has his judgment clouded by the grief and pure anger when she could have fight him off if she stayed on his blind spot and wait until he was tired and get back to his mental faculties, Kenny shows almost an insta-regret from what he did to Jane, and that seems to change him, the fact that he just killed someone like that, but frankly, Jane doesn't seem to give a fuck, because, the whole fight situation was her trying to find a reason to kill him, but she failed in do so and he pinned her on the ground using her knife against her, so, if Clementine did it for her it's even better, because she doesn't have to deal with Kenny's blood on her's hands, Kenny didn't tried to kill her in any moment before SHE tried to kill him (knifing his abdomen), because from all we have seen before she did that, was Kenny holding her and tackling her back, while her was kicking his balls, trying to throw punches in Kenny's face (probably trying to hit his eye wound) and finally knifing him.
As i said before, Jane in this whole episode used her partial views on Kenny to point out that he was crazy and never cared from trying to realize the truth or chatting with him to see what was going on, she only formed opinion and did backtalk in order to persuade people into her point of view (which could be easily refuted if someone pointed out everything that happened, but it seems that everyone was on Arvo's side). And why she have to be special? Kenny also saw a bunch of shit, but this never gave him a reason to kill people, even more, he never killed someone because he thought of him "crazy" or that it will hurt his family, if it was this way, he would have tried to kill Andy, Danny and Brenda St.John without investigating, Lilly and Larry just after they refused to let him in the drugstore, killed Omid and Christa just before Lee had the chance to talk to them, start to shoot right away against the cabin group when they reached on the lodge but he always tried to understand the whole history before drawing conclusions and trying to kill, so, that makes Jane's plan on hiding the baby completely unjustificable. Wait, you're saying that she attempted to kill Kenny to have an Happy Ending with Clementine? Dude, you probably have no idea of how much this sound selfish, Kenny NEVER did that, in fact, Kenny in almost 100% of the times "killed" himself so the group could be kept alive, but you're openly saying that Jane tried to kill Kenny because she partial perspective told her that Kenny was an obstacle on her way to Clementine, so, she had to terminate him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQy6KNx4d-s just add Bruh!
Michael Supernor1 wrote: Jane is pretty much Molly, in terms of fighting, showing how much Kenny has improved in hand to hand.Â
Those huge bottled waters (all together) were about 100 pounds. And Kenny has broken out of Mike's head locks a ton of times.
Yes, but when he got Kenny off of Arvo, he istanely broke out of it. And Mike ran away from Kenny, proving he's scared of him.
Too me he looked like he didn't want to get accidently punched in the mouth cause they've been through enoughÂ
Try to understand, kiddos: Strenght =/= Ability in Combat.
If it weren't for Kenny's rage during his final showdown with Jane, Jane would have won (Jane has enough skill to go toe-to-toe with Molly...........)
Nope, Kenny was dodging any blows that Jane was trying to give him, then, she tried to go for the eyes, but Kenny managed to get back and kill her, the only moment that she reached real close of killing him was when she used the knife to slit Kenny's abdomen open. I didn't saw any special tricks in Jane's fighting, in fact, i didn't saw even on Molly, i mean, Lee can disarm her pretty easily and pin her on the ground, a zombie have a hold of her and she can't get out alone, so, i didn't saw any special tricks on Molly either, don't know why you people get over-hyped with her.
I agree. Molly and Jane can fight, but I think Kenny took some fighting classes after he disappeared because after getting his ass kicked multiple times in S1, he kicks everyone's ass in S2.
Jane is so overrated, I choose Kenny anyday!