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Terminus

  • I have not read the comic series so if Terminus refers to something directly with the comic series, forgive me for my ignorance in the Walking Dead universe.

    Regarding Terminus, the yet unseen safe haven for survivors, seems too good to be true…especially since there are signs up posting where to go. In Roman religion, Terminus was the God who protected boundary markers; the name was the Latin word for such a marker. Sacrifices were performed to sanctify each boundary stone. An annual festival, Terminalia, was celebrated each year on February 23rd to renew this foundation ritual. It was considered sacrilege to move boundary stones. He protected not only private property but also state boundaries. Offerings to Terminus were crops, honeycombs, wine & garlands.

    I wonder if that background of the word plays a part in this series. What are your thoughts on Terminus?

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    • Terminus is a original location in the show and is not from the comics, though it may be the television version of Alexandria, who knows.

      Before Atlanta was Atlanta, it was originally called Terminus, which stated the end because it was where the trains tracks ended (need to look up a little more of this cause I'm not sure myself, they discussed this on Talking Dead).

      I'm kind of excited to see how the story goes with survivors living out in the woods and some in Terminus (perhaps)

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    • I haven't read the comic book either, other than what I have heard about the new comers (abrahams group). If I were to guess what safe havens would eventually turn into in a zombie apocolypse, I would think they would all turn dangerous as supplies got low. So I am assuming this place may not be as safe as they would like to hope.I could totally see your latin translation being used in the story however. Primarily the part about the sacrifices. that concerns me!

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    • I will only go so far as to say that terminus is not in the comics.  My first thought when I saw it was the same as MaDrunner's, I thought it may be the same place as Alexandria however, Alexandria was near DC so maybe they're adding a little.If I remember correctly, there was a bit of a lull at this time in the comics and it's possible they added Terminus as a little excitement until they go to the DC areaand eventually find Alexandria.  My guess is that Terminus could also be the haven of the cannibals that were encountered in the comic.Who knows, this is all just specualtion.

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    • i doubt that terminus is alexandria (as the season 5 casting call says they are heading to washington) but i personally think that it could be like a "remix" of Gabe's church maybe?

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    • People have speculated it could be The Hunter's camp. Using advertisements to lure people in. I'm not sure really.

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    • While Terminus may be named after Atlanta's original name, it looks to be close to Macon, Georgia from the brief glimpse of the map in the last episode. Macon isn't terribly far from Atlanta (only 85 miles), and we know Atlanta is overrun. I really doubt the entire city has been turned into a safe haven in the short span of time since the survivors were last there (a few months at best. Maybe a year?).

      Anyone else know about this or have an opinion about it?

      By the way, I'm not of the belief that it is the Hunter's Camp, just because of what the survivors that Beth and Daryl ran into said: "There's a safe place up the tracks! You can take your children there." Doesn't sound like someone who is exactly trying to lure in prey the way The Hunters would, especially given their condition at the time Beth and Daryl found them.

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    • 50DaysOfOlivia wrote: People have speculated it could be The Hunter's camp. Using advertisements to lure people in. I'm not sure really.

      That's exactly what I was thinking

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    • One thing that I can't help but wonder is who would leave a safe zone to go put up those signs? And who made the big banner sign? it looks like a professional style sign...machine printed letters, not the hand painted sign that I would expect. (probably thinking too much into that point).

      But nonetheless, does the safe area (Terminus) have a scouting party that hunts for supplies and also hangs signs? And if so, are they the men that Rick recently encountered? Not good if they are....which I am beginning to think so as the synopsys for "A" says "Rick faces sheer brutality".

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    • Ten Tailed Fox wrote: While Terminus may be named after Atlanta's original name, it looks to be close to Macon, Georgia from the brief glimpse of the map in the last episode. Macon isn't terribly far from Atlanta (only 85 miles), and we know Atlanta is overrun. I really doubt the entire city has been turned into a safe haven in the short span of time since the survivors were last there (a few months at best. Maybe a year?).

      Anyone else know about this or have an opinion about it?

      By the way, I'm not of the belief that it is the Hunter's Camp, just because of what the survivors that Beth and Daryl ran into said: "There's a safe place up the tracks! You can take your children there." Doesn't sound like someone who is exactly trying to lure in prey the way The Hunters would, especially given their condition at the time Beth and Daryl found them.

      It could be that the guy on the tracks just saw the sign too and figured it was safe as he had not gone there yet and probably just believed it could be real and safe

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    • I agree with the idea of Macon being the terminus. Check out 32.8122682,-83.6250618 it's one of the biggest railyards in the area.

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    • It is not the Alexandria safe zone, as that is where Rick, Carl, and Michonne are heading. It would sem the group is being split apart into different camps.

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    • I doubt it'll stay that way, though. Everyone has seen the sign for Terminus and, besides Beth and Daryl, are headed directly for it. They'll meet up if that continues.

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    • I am first to admit that I believe Terminus is too good to be true...especially since there are so many signs pointing in that direction...literally.

      But what if Terminus is actually a semi-safe haven? Woodbury was safe (less the Governor), and they had solar panel & generators for electricity.

      So a safe haven is possible. Put the comics aside. We have seen that the TV series is where Kirkman can change the story or correct past wrongs (Kirkman admits he regrets Rick losing his hand). What if Terminus is a safe haven from Walkers but the season cliffhanger is the introduction of the Hunters invading? Or something similar to that affect.

      Thoughts??

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    • Given the description for "A", it seems more like its going to be a trap. I hadn't seen that description before making my earlier post. I personally hope its the Hunters, because that will make the last three episodes of Season 4 really badass, but as you've said, Kirkman changes things up with the TV series, so its really anyone's guess.

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    • Ten Tailed Fox wrote: Given the description for "A", it seems more like its going to be a trap. I hadn't seen that description before making my earlier post. I personally hope its the Hunters, because that will make the last three episodes of Season 4 really badass, but as you've said, Kirkman changes things up with the TV series, so its really anyone's guess.

      or rather Us......A

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    • Ten Tailed Fox wrote:
      While Terminus may be named after Atlanta's original name, it looks to be close to Macon, Georgia from the brief glimpse of the map in the last episode. Macon isn't terribly far from Atlanta (only 85 miles), and we know Atlanta is overrun. I really doubt the entire city has been turned into a safe haven in the short span of time since the survivors were last there (a few months at best. Maybe a year?).

      Anyone else know about this or have an opinion about it?

      By the way, I'm not of the belief that it is the Hunter's Camp, just because of what the survivors that Beth and Daryl ran into said: "There's a safe place up the tracks! You can take your children there." Doesn't sound like someone who is exactly trying to lure in prey the way The Hunters would, especially given their condition at the time Beth and Daryl found them.

      I agree with Macon being Terminus. If you look at a map of Georgia and compare it to the map on the show, Terminus is where Macon would be. Atlanta is further north. Look for the inward dip in the state line with Alabama.

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    • Even Kirkman said in an interview "Terminus sounds like bad news, but that's why you keep watching right?"

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    • So its not Negan's factory a.k.a. Saviors base?

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    • Its way too early to be anything related to the Saviors. I expect we won't see them for sometime yet.

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    • what about the hunters?

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    • Ten Tailed Fox wrote:
      Its way too early to be anything related to the Saviors. I expect we won't see them for sometime yet.

      Yeah but, Sanctuary is their base in comics. I don't get it, they must change something again then.

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    • I hate to burst some people's bubbles but I doubt that the signs are by the hunters, there is already Daryl's new 'friends', Beth's kidnappers and Abe's group which I personally think is enough in terms of new groups which we don't really know much about yet.

      Though I would like Terminus to be Atlanta (to see how it's changed) I don't think it is because Atlanta was heavily overun so for someone to 'clear' a place like that would be unrealistic and there has only be one time where we have returned to an old location so it's unlikely it will happen again.

      I haven't read the comics so my prediction is purely a guess but it's possible the signs are setup by Daryl's new group however they seem careless which makes me think otherwise however they are well equipt in terms of weapons which indicates they must be part of some bigger group possibly.

      Like "A survivor" said, the fact that someone would have to put up all those signs and risk their life shows that it could possibly be some kind of troop, maybe leads to a overun city of some kind or an ambush.

      These are just some of my ideas which I'm throwing out there :D

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    • Silent Assassin9 wrote: I hate to burst some people's bubbles but I doubt that the signs are by the hunters, there is already Daryl's new 'friends', Beth's kidnappers and Abe's group which I personally think is enough in terms of new groups which we don't really know much about yet.

      Though I would like Terminus to be Atlanta (to see how it's changed) I don't think it is because Atlanta was heavily overun so for someone to 'clear' a place like that would be unrealistic and there has only be one time where we have returned to an old location so it's unlikely it will happen again.

      I haven't read the comics so my prediction is purely a guess but it's possible the signs are setup by Daryl's new group however they seem careless which makes me think otherwise however they are well equipt in terms of weapons which indicates they must be part of some bigger group possibly.

      Like "A survivor" said, the fact that someone would have to put up all those signs and risk their life shows that it could possibly be some kind of troop, maybe leads to a overun city of some kind or an ambush.

      These are just some of my ideas which I'm throwing out there :D

      the idea about clearing Atlanta isnt unrealistic the big zombie herd Went other directions because of a heli, which might have thinned the amount of Walkers in the city.

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    • Terminus - 1) was first name of Atlanta 2) roman god of boundaries/property rights. Where sacrificies to him were to be done on a particular stone facing upwards in a dark room or cave with a small hole or opening directly above the sacricial stone.    and 3) noone here has mentioned that "Terminus" is the last poem Ralph Waldo Emerson ever wrote and more importantly is about DEATH.  It refers to the Roman god Terminus, who says to the narrator that you have 2 choices, to go on and die like in  gradual but inevitable certainty like everyone else, or decide to go out with one last hooray, pushing away the majority of people that arent your closest loved ones. The God Terminus also says that the narrator (Emerson) to survive by using the path of least resistance, thinking ingenuitively and economically.  It also mentions novel germs, and more interestngly  "bad husbands" who go out and start fires.

      What does this mean?  I dont know. I havent read comics.  But I see Terminus as Trap by people that see every other survivor outside their group as a future Walker and therefore must be eliminated.  Then again, who knows, maybe it is a safe-haven.

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    • You can't really know what Terminus is, since the new guy is apparently trying to right past wrongs, so we don't know where in the comic series we're going to end up. It could even be something entirely new, unique to the TV series.

      My money is on it being a renmaned Alexandria safe zone though,

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    • 74.136.231.60 wrote:
      Terminus - 1) was first name of Atlanta 2) roman god of boundaries/property rights. Where sacrificies to him were to be done on a particular stone facing upwards in a dark room or cave with a small hole or opening directly above the sacricial stone.    and 3) noone here has mentioned that "Terminus" is the last poem Ralph Waldo Emerson ever wrote and more importantly is about DEATH.  It refers to the Roman god Terminus, who says to the narrator that you have 2 choices, to go on and die like in  gradual but inevitable certainty like everyone else, or decide to go out with one last hooray, pushing away the majority of people that arent your closest loved ones. The God Terminus also says that the narrator (Emerson) to survive by using the path of least resistance, thinking ingenuitively and economically.  It also mentions novel germs, and more interestngly  "bad husbands" who go out and start fires.

      What does this mean?  I dont know. I havent read comics.  But I see Terminus as Trap by people that see every other survivor outside their group as a future Walker and therefore must be eliminated.  Then again, who knows, maybe it is a safe-haven.


      I knew I had read something called or about Terminus in the past (probably a high school or college requirement that went in one ear, out the other). Very nice catch and the first I have heard that angle on here.

      Here is the Poem.

      TerminusEdit

      By Ralph Waldo Emerson

      It is time to be old,

      To take in sail:

      The god of bounds,

      Who sets to seas a shore,

      Came to me in his fatal rounds,

      And said: “No more!

      No farther shoot

      Thy broad ambitious branches, and thy root.

      Fancy departs: no more invent;

      Contract thy firmament

      To compass of a tent.

      There’s not enough for this and that,

      Make thy option which of two;

      Economize the failing river,

      Not the less revere the Giver,

      Leave the many and hold the few.

      Timely wise accept the terms,

      Soften the fall with wary foot;

      A little whileStill plan and smile,

      And,—fault of novel germs,—

      Mature the unfallen fruit.

      Curse, if thou wilt, thy sires,

      Bad husbands of their fires,

      Who, when they gave thee breath,

      Failed to bequeath

      The needful sinew stark as once,

      The Baresark marrow to thy bones,

      But left a legacy of ebbing veins,

      Inconstant heat and nerveless reins,—

      Amid the Muses, left thee deaf and dumb,

      Amid the gladiators, halt and numb.”  

      As the bird trims her to the gale,

      I trim myself to the storm of time,

      I man the rudder, reef the sail,

      Obey the voice at eve obeyed at prime:

      “Lowly faithful, banish fear,

      Right onward drive unharmed;

      The port, well worth the cruise, is near,

      And every wave is charmed."

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    • My guess, is that Terminus is the church that they stay at for a while before Dale is taken by the hunters in the comics. I think that in the show, Beth was already taken by the hunters and now Daryl is with the hunters. Beth might lose her leg to the hunters like Dale did in the comic (would make for an unfortunate parallel between her and her dad in the show). Daryl will rescue Beth and meet up with everyone at the church (Terminus) leading the hunters there.

      The reason that I think the group is the hunters and that they have nothing to do with Terminus, is that in the comic the hunters only go after one or two people traveling alone, they don't go after groups. the lone travelers have really thinned out by this time, though, which made them decide to go after the group at the church.

      Since they haven't eaten anyone in a while, and Daryl takes Beth from them, they will be mad and hungry enough to decide to go after the group. My guess is that someone is losing their leg to the hunters before they are all killed by seasons end and the group is back on the road to DC to start next season.

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    • Interesting tidbit for those of you who have or have thought about playing video game. During Season 2, they show a map of Georgia's railroads, and all of the railroads meet at Macon, Georgia (a location that is also explored in the games). In fact, the maps look almost identical. I know the game is based primarily on the comics, but that doesn't mean Georgia geography changes with it. For me, that confirms Macon to be Terminus.

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    • Ten Tailed Fox wrote:
      Interesting tidbit for those of you who have or have thought about playing video game. During Season 2, they show a map of Georgia's railroads, and all of the railroads meet at Macon, Georgia (a location that is also explored in the games). In fact, the maps look almost identical. I know the game is based primarily on the comics, but that doesn't mean Georgia geography changes with it. For me, that confirms Macon to be Terminus.

      I forget, have we ever visited Macon in the comics?

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    • I'm still fairly new to the comics (honestly, I'm more fond of the show. I know, shoot me, but I am), so I'm not completely certain. But I don't think so. To my recollection, its only been shown in the game, and mentioned by Michonne in the show.

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    • 50.182.73.77 wrote:
      Ten Tailed Fox wrote:
      Interesting tidbit for those of you who have or have thought about playing video game. During Season 2, they show a map of Georgia's railroads, and all of the railroads meet at Macon, Georgia (a location that is also explored in the games). In fact, the maps look almost identical. I know the game is based primarily on the comics, but that doesn't mean Georgia geography changes with it. For me, that confirms Macon to be Terminus.
      I forget, have we ever visited Macon in the comics?

      No

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    • Does anybody remember earlier in season 4, Michonne was talking about checking out Macon while she was searching for The Governor? And she never got to go because the flu hit? The writers could have been doing that to stop us from discovering Terminus.

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    • That's what I'm thinking too.

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    • Fawtyfawnullandvoid wrote:
      Does anybody remember earlier in season 4, Michonne was talking about checking out Macon while she was searching for The Governor? And she never got to go because the flu hit? The writers could have been doing that to stop us from discovering Terminus.

      Interseting... I stand by my theory that Terminus is no good. Too close to being called Terminal (Like terminal illness.)

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    • I think Terminus is the bit of King County that Morgan cleared out in season 3.

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      ....finally reach what appears to be Terminus. There is a spacious piece of land scattered with  some buildings. A surrounding fence offers little challenge. There are no questions. As they enter, they come upon a courtyard, circled by flowers and vegetables.

      A woman is seen barbecuing there. Her name is Mary, and she offers them something to eat…

      Cut to black.

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    • I think it's a trap. Something like the St. Dairy Farm in the Telltale game - a safe haven under disguise. Something is gonna be up about it...things never go smoothly in TWD, right? :)

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    • Yeah it probably is a trap but it would be funny if it was actually a save haven then gets overrun when the group reunites 

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    • I was going for the whole "Too good to be true thing", but frankly there's no time left for that plot.  There's going to be one episode to reunite and the group and unveil Terminus.  Where in that is there time for a big trap/evil place to be set up and escaped from/defeated?  Right now I'm guessing either Terminus is/was a safehaven, or it's a stop-over in between.  Those are train tracks.  Maybe someone has a train running that goes TO a safe haven. 

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    • I'd say its a trap. Never underestimate what damage The Walking Dead can do in only two episodes. Keep in mind that the entire Governor attack only took one. Sunday could be a reunion/introduction to the trap, and the Season Finale is the battle/escape from said trap.

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    • Ten Tailed Fox wrote:
      I'd say its a trap. Never underestimate what damage The Walking Dead can do in only two episodes. Keep in mind that the entire Governor attack only took one. Sunday could be a reunion/introduction to the trap, and the Season Finale is the battle/escape from said trap.

      But the set up for that attack took several episodes.  Starting the moment they showed the Governor was still alive, and particularly the moment he ran into Martinez again, and they showed the tank.  In this case, we've had nothing except the signs to go by.  The only alternate group we've been introduced to is Joe and his group, and they don't seem the type to be printing up signs and hanging them around the place to draw in victims.  They seem to simply be travelling around themselves.

      So a trap with a sudden one-episode group they have to escape from?  I think I'd be disappointed in that kind of episode.  I'm thinking more along the lines of a final showdown with Joe's group, leading up to revealing whatever Terminus is.  Even if it's simply a once safe area now overrun by Walkers.



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    • Ten Tailed Fox wrote:
      I'd say its a trap. Never underestimate what damage The Walking Dead can do in only two episodes. Keep in mind that the entire Governor attack only took one. Sunday could be a reunion/introduction to the trap, and the Season Finale is the battle/escape from said trap.

      Yeah I don't feel like it's going to be a major part of the story. Just a town that's really overrun with walkers or insane people. And there will probably be some major battle in the season finale.

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    • I kind of have the feeling they won't leave Georgia in the TV series.

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    • Siamesedream1 wrote: I kind of have the feeling they won't leave Georgia in the TV series.

      It says in the Season 5 casting call that Rick Nd the group Re heading for Washington DC, which is in Virginia -.-
      
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    • Yeah, they're definitely heading to D.C. next season. So something has to happen in two episodes that would convince them to get the hell out of Georgia. Guess we'll find out.

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    • Ten Tailed Fox wrote:
      Yeah, they're definitely heading to D.C. next season. So something has to happen in two episodes that would convince them to get the hell out of Georgia. Guess we'll find out.

      Yeah, whatever's at Terminus probably.

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    • Siamesedream1 wrote:

      Ten Tailed Fox wrote:
      Yeah, they're definitely heading to D.C. next season. So something has to happen in two episodes that would convince them to get the hell out of Georgia. Guess we'll find out.

      Yeah, whatever's at Terminus probably.

      In the comics, Abraham is the one that convinces Rick to go there (by convincing him Eugene can solve all of this). So, its probably a mixture of Terminus being a flop (perhaps overrun with Walkers or insane survivors) and Abraham offering that as a solution.

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    • there isnt a "terminus" in the comics but its probably alexandria

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    • Fawtyfawnullandvoid wrote:

      Siamesedream1 wrote: I kind of have the feeling they won't leave Georgia in the TV series.

      It says in the Season 5 casting call that Rick Nd the group Re heading for Washington DC, which is in Virginia -.-

      its actually maryland, not virginia

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    • Terminus is definitely a trap.

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    • Ten Tailed Fox wrote:
      Interesting tidbit for those of you who have or have thought about playing video game. During Season 2, they show a map of Georgia's railroads, and all of the railroads meet at Macon, Georgia (a location that is also explored in the games). In fact, the maps look almost identical. I know the game is based primarily on the comics, but that doesn't mean Georgia geography changes with it. For me, that confirms Macon to be Terminus.

      I agree and Clementine was kidnapped in the game.  Was Beth kidnapped by a remix of the Stranger?

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    • Alexandria is in Virginia

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    • After seeing "US" tonight, and getting a glimpse of Terminus when Glenn, Maggie and the others in their current group get there, I must say that I think that Terminus is a group of cannibals. The reason I think this is the only person who greets the group is Mary and the rest of the place looks deserted and if you notice, she is standing over clean grills like she is waiting for something or someone to cook.  Muuuwaaaaah-ha-ha!!!

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      I'm definitely aiming at A is Alexandria.

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    • Seeing Terminus tonight, I actually go the other way. I don't think things are quite right there, but I also don't think it's the Hunters/Cannibals. They have surplus food there with gardens flourishing everywhere the survivors look as they make their way through the gates, courtyards and alley ways. I don't think we'll be seeing the cannibals until season 5, on the road to Alexandria (which is when they actually do appear in the comics, when the group is together). Who knows, we might even see Morgan at Terminus? Could happen. So, while things seem a little off with the place -- I definitely don't think it's Hunters. The hunters aren't patient people and they don't possess the skill sets to easily hunt wild game or take the time to garden or grow their own crops -- they trick, trap and eat humans because they're gullible, slower and easier to take down and pick off. Terminus doesn't look like it's wanting for sustenence with all those crops.

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    • Betcha that terminus is the base for the hunters who use radio transmissions and the signs to attract desperate survivors to be their next meal

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    • That huge grill at the end wasnt for Animials or they better have huge Hamburgers there! lol

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    • Yeah, that place had "We're going to eat you" written all over it. And did anyone else get some creepy ass vibes from the preview to the Season Finale? Terminus has some baaaddd vibes attached to it. No way a place like that is so deserted.

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    • as soon as i saw no security i knew terminus was bad and Mary made me think their grill needed meat on it. id eat maggie first

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    • 72.228.14.212 wrote: as soon as i saw no security i knew terminus was bad and Mary made me think their grill needed meat on it. id eat maggie first

      Mary reminded me of that farm lady from Season 1 of the video games. I'm tellin' ya. People get eaten there. It may not be "The Hunters" in the literal sense, but just like how Lizzie was a substitute for Ben, this place may be the substitute for The Hunters.

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    • 68.14.69.102 wrote:
      Seeing Terminus tonight, I actually go the other way. I don't think things are quite right there, but I also don't think it's the Hunters/Cannibals. They have surplus food there with gardens flourishing everywhere the survivors look as they make their way through the gates, courtyards and alley ways. I don't think we'll be seeing the cannibals until season 5, on the road to Alexandria (which is when they actually do appear in the comics, when the group is together). Who knows, we might even see Morgan at Terminus? Could happen. So, while things seem a little off with the place -- I definitely don't think it's Hunters. The hunters aren't patient people and they don't possess the skill sets to easily hunt wild game or take the time to garden or grow their own crops -- they trick, trap and eat humans because they're gullible, slower and easier to take down and pick off. Terminus doesn't look like it's wanting for sustenence with all those crops.


      Exactly what I mean by the grills that they show in the scene where Mary is. They show all kinds of garden food, but do you see any Pigs or other "meat" to grill in there? No, just some side salads or side items. Where's the beef? Even Rick and the group had pigs to go with their gardens. And in the area of the prison, the pigs were there where you could see it all with the gardens. All you see is gardens at Terminus, so I still think that Terminus is a bunch of cannibals looking for meat to go with their side salads. I don't know about the rest of you, but it is going to drive me batty waiting for next Sunday. Mu-waaaaaaaaaaah-hahaha!!

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    • Camjeff wrote:
      68.14.69.102 wrote:
      Seeing Terminus tonight, I actually go the other way. I don't think things are quite right there, but I also don't think it's the Hunters/Cannibals. They have surplus food there with gardens flourishing everywhere the survivors look as they make their way through the gates, courtyards and alley ways. I don't think we'll be seeing the cannibals until season 5, on the road to Alexandria (which is when they actually do appear in the comics, when the group is together). Who knows, we might even see Morgan at Terminus? Could happen. So, while things seem a little off with the place -- I definitely don't think it's Hunters. The hunters aren't patient people and they don't possess the skill sets to easily hunt wild game or take the time to garden or grow their own crops -- they trick, trap and eat humans because they're gullible, slower and easier to take down and pick off. Terminus doesn't look like it's wanting for sustenence with all those crops.

      Exactly what I mean by the grills that they show in the scene where Mary is. They show all kinds of garden food, but do you see any Pigs or other "meat" to grill in there? No, just some side salads or side items. Where's the beef? Even Rick and the group had pigs to go with their gardens. And in the area of the prison, the pigs were there where you could see it all with the gardens. All you see is gardens at Terminus, so I still think that Terminus is a bunch of cannibals looking for meat to go with their side salads. I don't know about the rest of you, but it is going to drive me batty waiting for next Sunday. Mu-waaaaaaaaaaah-hahaha!!

      Exactly, I think they're just really sadistic people. I don't think they really need the meat, I think they're just super sick twisted people.

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    • I got a very cannibal-y vibe from that place too. I'm happy (/scared) to see so many others agree haha

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    • I know right, I expected to be one of the only ones. So glad i'm not

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    • Zioneig wrote:
      Fawtyfawnullandvoid wrote:

      Siamesedream1 wrote: I kind of have the feeling they won't leave Georgia in the TV series.

      It says in the Season 5 casting call that Rick Nd the group Re heading for Washington DC, which is in Virginia -.-
      its actually maryland, not virginia

      Yes, you're right. DC is in Maryland. But the survivors (in the comics at least) recognize that there's nothing left there and are redirected to the Alexandria Safe Zone, which is in Virginia. That might be why someone thought DC was in VA.

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    • A lot of people are saying that it's pieces of Beth cooking on the grill in Terminus, but let's be honest here. You couldn't cut a piece of meat that big off tiny Beth Greene, let alone 3 or 4 of those venison-looking steaks. I don't think Terminus is the Hunters -- I think they'll show up later on the road to DC, like in the comics. I definitely think Terminus is to be a scene of a bloody showdown between Team Rick and Team Joe -- one that would either get them kicked out of this gated community or that will make them more receptive to leaving for DC. I think everyone who is currently with Abraham has agreed to go to DC with him, but only if they go to Terminus to find the rest of their group first -- which means, he'll likely recruit everyone, as he did in the comics. But I think we'll find Beth when we meet a character like Gabriel.

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    • 68.14.69.102 wrote:
      Zioneig wrote:
      Fawtyfawnullandvoid wrote:

      Siamesedream1 wrote: I kind of have the feeling they won't leave Georgia in the TV series.

      It says in the Season 5 casting call that Rick Nd the group Re heading for Washington DC, which is in Virginia -.-
      its actually maryland, not virginia
      Yes, you're right. DC is in Maryland. But the survivors (in the comics at least) recognize that there's nothing left there and are redirected to the Alexandria Safe Zone, which is in Virginia. That might be why someone thought DC was in VA.

      DC is neither Maryland or Virginia..It' DC.

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    • The Terminus shooting location is here: 33.7317666666667, -84.3986416666667 or use  33°43'54.36"N  84°23'55.11"W or 825 Windsor St SW, Atlanta, GA 30315.

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    • 68.14.69.102 wrote:
      A lot of people are saying that it's pieces of Beth cooking on the grill in Terminus, but let's be honest here. You couldn't cut a piece of meat that big off tiny Beth Greene, let alone 3 or 4 of those venison-looking steaks. I don't think Terminus is the Hunters -- I think they'll show up later on the road to DC, like in the comics. I definitely think Terminus is to be a scene of a bloody showdown between Team Rick and Team Joe -- one that would either get them kicked out of this gated community or that will make them more receptive to leaving for DC. I think everyone who is currently with Abraham has agreed to go to DC with him, but only if they go to Terminus to find the rest of their group first -- which means, he'll likely recruit everyone, as he did in the comics. But I think we'll find Beth when we meet a character like Gabriel.

      Wait did we even see the meat?

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    • 98.242.99.194 wrote: The Terminus shooting location is here: 33.7317666666667, -84.3986416666667 or use  33°43'54.36"N  84°23'55.11"W or 825 Windsor St SW, Atlanta, GA 30315.

      Enjoy!

      NICE

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    • Silence Must Fall wrote:
      68.14.69.102 wrote:
      A lot of people are saying that it's pieces of Beth cooking on the grill in Terminus, but let's be honest here. You couldn't cut a piece of meat that big off tiny Beth Greene, let alone 3 or 4 of those venison-looking steaks. I don't think Terminus is the Hunters -- I think they'll show up later on the road to DC, like in the comics. I definitely think Terminus is to be a scene of a bloody showdown between Team Rick and Team Joe -- one that would either get them kicked out of this gated community or that will make them more receptive to leaving for DC. I think everyone who is currently with Abraham has agreed to go to DC with him, but only if they go to Terminus to find the rest of their group first -- which means, he'll likely recruit everyone, as he did in the comics. But I think we'll find Beth when we meet a character like Gabriel.
      Wait did we even see the meat?

      Yes, you could see it on the grill. There were 3 large slabs of meat lined up. Looks like deer flanks to me, personally.

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    • Here's Something odd,There was no guards at The Gates, like if they were comfortable letting anyone in, and there wasn't many people walking around in the Background or sitting and talking,if it was a Safe-Zone,There would be Guards on the Gates and People walking around and kids running all over The Place, so I Think something fishy is going on here

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    • Well if you played the game, there were cannibals who were friendly to newcomers. 

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    • 70.210.65.140 wrote:
      Here's Something odd,There was no guards at The Gates, like if they were comfortable letting anyone in, and there wasn't many people walking around in the Background or sitting and talking,if it was a Safe-Zone,There would be Guards on the Gates and People walking around and kids running all over The Place, so I Think something fishy is going on here

      I dont know what Terminus is but even if there were hunters/cannibals/weird&wild people or whatever it should be under guards either to protect the place agains walkers. Am i wrong? 

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    • 72.228.14.212 wrote:
      as soon as i saw no security i knew terminus was bad and Mary made me think their grill needed meat on it. id eat maggie first
      Iynwim

      "I'd eat Maggie first, too."








      Seriously though, I got a creepy vibe from Mary. I think it would be a powerful way to end the season by bringing in the Hunters as "Terminus". The preview for 4x16 was eerie, that voice repeating "Terminus" over and over again in the backdrop like that. Can't wait.

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    • Gareth is said to be a 'mix' of known characters. I think they are mixing Gabriel Stokes with the Hunters, so to have some kind of fucked up cannibalistic religious thing. That's what Terminus is all about.

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    • Fuck this shit, now I want an undead tyrannosaurus

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    • 98.242.99.194 wrote: The Terminus shooting location is here: 33.7317666666667, -84.3986416666667 or use  33°43'54.36"N  84°23'55.11"W or 825 Windsor St SW, Atlanta, GA 30315.

      Enjoy!

      It is a house that is for sale. LOL http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/825-Windsor-St-SW-Atlanta-GA-30315/2109772088_zpid/

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    • would cannibalism even make sense in a world lke this? Animal populations would be growing fast and since humans are getting rare wouldnt it stand to reason that there would be plenty of game to go around? Must be some scarey ppl if they see animals everywhere and decide they want to eat ppl. ahhh!

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    • 72.228.14.212 wrote:
      would cannibalism even make sense in a world lke this? Animal populations would be growing fast and since humans are getting rare wouldnt it stand to reason that there would be plenty of game to go around? Must be some scarey ppl if they see animals everywhere and decide they want to eat ppl. ahhh!

      Cannibalism does sound absurd but animal populations are also at risk because the Walkers also go after them. Remember, these zombies are the kind that eats animals as well unlike the ones in Dawn of the Dead (remake) that ignore animals.

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    • Everyone shows up.  The Claimed guys go after Rick.  Prison group helps Rick and kills the Claimed group with Daryl supprising the Claimed guys.  This breaks the rules of Terminus and they all get evicted, so they head to DC.

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    • 72.228.14.212 wrote:
      would cannibalism even make sense in a world lke this? Animal populations would be growing fast and since humans are getting rare wouldnt it stand to reason that there would be plenty of game to go around? Must be some scarey ppl if they see animals everywhere and decide they want to eat ppl. ahhh!

      Your'e right. There's still plenty of wild game, which the survivors have hunted and trapped in snares, but -- in the comics -- the Hunters are people who are not good at hunting or trapping animals, so they instead play on human gullability and trap, subdue and eat people instead. They have no other means of eating to survive otherwise. (In the comics, they ate all of their children first, which is disgusting -- I hated the Hunters).

      That's why I don't think Terminus will be the Hunters. In the comics, we didn't meet them until AFTER we meet Father Gabriel Stokes, who offers the survivors refuge in his church from the Hunters (I also think Gabriel will have Beth). Plus, the Terminus shelter has flourishing gardens with ample food. No need to kill people when you're already not going hungry.

      That being said, something stinks in the sanctuary of Terminus. Something seems off. But, it could be a perfectly find place and it turns out that whatever hell Joe and Rick rain down on the place with their blood feud will get the survivors all kicked out of this sanctuary and back on the road to D.C.

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    • This time the conspirationist f*cker(me),is going to say that there won't be any cannibals,and that Mary is Olivia from the comics.Terminus is safe and Gareth is a mix of Aaron and Douglas.Cannibals will come to Alexandria.I'll say this becauseHis smartnessEugene,did not say s*it about the BBQ.And I don't see any chances in cutting out such a longevive character as Fr.Gabriel Stokes.Fin.

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    • ComplacentAntagonist wrote:
      This time the conspirationist f*cker(me),is going to say that there won't be any cannibals,and that Mary is Olivia from the comics.Terminus is safe and Gareth is a mix of Aaron and Douglas.Cannibals will come to Alexandria.I'll say this becauseHis smartnessEugene,did not say s*it about the BBQ.And I don't see any chances in cutting out such a longevive character as Fr.Gabriel Stokes.Fin.

      Those are some very good points you've kinda changed my view on it at this point.

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    • As my last goldfish once said ITS A TRAP!

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    • 192.167.204.23 wrote:
      Gareth is said to be a 'mix' of known characters. I think they are mixing Gabriel Stokes with the Hunters, so to have some kind of fucked up cannibalistic religious thing. That's what Terminus is all about.

      They actually said he's a remix of a single character from the comics (not multiple characters), who they refused to name. So, he'll either be a remix of Gabriel (which would make him a non-threat) or he'll be a remix of Chris (which will most definitely make him a threat). My money is on him being a remix of Gabriel, though. The car with the cross was too symbolic to have meant absolutely nothing. The writers don't put anything into this show that doesn't somehow come back around eventually. They say he'll play a major role, possibly even into Season 5. Gabriel has been around for quiet a while now in the comics, so the odds are that, if they choose to make Gareth a long-standing character, he might be modeled after the reverend (though it's looking more like he will be portrayed as a highly religious mortician in the show, if he is in fact the one who lived in the funeral home and kidnapped Beth).

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    • This is the biggest and most obviouse trap ive seen in my life ricks groups been living at the prison for an estimated 4-6 months and daryl and michonne have never seen a sign for terminus on there supply runs or hunt for the govonor then all of a sudden a sign pops up out of no were suspisous much. plus you all saw how the gates to it were all unlocked no person in the right mind would leave there front door unlocked, no guards aswell. finally you have the lady doing ironing who the hell does ironing outside. you saw her face it wasnt the welcoming look it was the fake smile im going to eat you all look. Im starting to see why people in ricks group are dying like flys none of them have any common sense with the exception of Rick Daryl and Michonne even carl has more common sense. my bet is eugene will be eaten he is the fatest one there the hunters would get a good week of food from him. then it will be abrahams turn.

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    • Thanks for posting that. The New Zealand promo shows so much more!

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    • 24.239.237.215 wrote:
      68.14.69.102 wrote:
      Zioneig wrote:
      Fawtyfawnullandvoid wrote:

      Siamesedream1 wrote: I kind of have the feeling they won't leave Georgia in the TV series.

      It says in the Season 5 casting call that Rick Nd the group Re heading for Washington DC, which is in Virginia -.-
      its actually maryland, not virginia
      Yes, you're right. DC is in Maryland. But the survivors (in the comics at least) recognize that there's nothing left there and are redirected to the Alexandria Safe Zone, which is in Virginia. That might be why someone thought DC was in VA.
      DC is neither Maryland or Virginia..It' DC.

      um... no, atleast google it before you comment

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    • Zioneig wrote:
      24.239.237.215 wrote:
      68.14.69.102 wrote:
      Zioneig wrote:
      Fawtyfawnullandvoid wrote:

      Siamesedream1 wrote: I kind of have the feeling they won't leave Georgia in the TV series.

      It says in the Season 5 casting call that Rick Nd the group Re heading for Washington DC, which is in Virginia -.-
      its actually maryland, not virginia
      Yes, you're right. DC is in Maryland. But the survivors (in the comics at least) recognize that there's nothing left there and are redirected to the Alexandria Safe Zone, which is in Virginia. That might be why someone thought DC was in VA.
      DC is neither Maryland or Virginia..It' DC.
      um... no, atleast google it before you comment

      theyre right. DC is not part of any US State. in the constitution, exclusive jurisdiction by congress.

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    • 86.164.229.39 wrote:
      This is the biggest and most obviouse trap ive seen in my life ricks groups been living at the prison for an estimated 4-6 months and daryl and michonne have never seen a sign for terminus on there supply runs or hunt for the govonor then all of a sudden a sign pops up out of no were suspisous much. plus you all saw how the gates to it were all unlocked no person in the right mind would leave there front door unlocked, no guards aswell. finally you have the lady doing ironing who the hell does ironing outside. you saw her face it wasnt the welcoming look it was the fake smile im going to eat you all look. Im starting to see why people in ricks group are dying like flys none of them have any common sense with the exception of Rick Daryl and Michonne even carl has more common sense. my bet is eugene will be eaten he is the fatest one there the hunters would get a good week of food from him. then it will be abrahams turn.

      LOL:) Your theory about to eat fat Eugene first made me laughing:)

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    • Hannah-may wrote:
      86.164.229.39 wrote:
      This is the biggest and most obviouse trap ive seen in my life ricks groups been living at the prison for an estimated 4-6 months and daryl and michonne have never seen a sign for terminus on there supply runs or hunt for the govonor then all of a sudden a sign pops up out of no were suspisous much. plus you all saw how the gates to it were all unlocked no person in the right mind would leave there front door unlocked, no guards aswell. finally you have the lady doing ironing who the hell does ironing outside. you saw her face it wasnt the welcoming look it was the fake smile im going to eat you all look. Im starting to see why people in ricks group are dying like flys none of them have any common sense with the exception of Rick Daryl and Michonne even carl has more common sense. my bet is eugene will be eaten he is the fatest one there the hunters would get a good week of food from him. then it will be abrahams turn.
      LOL:) Your theory about to eat fat Eugene first made me laughing:)

      "Let me make you a plate." Main course, I imagine.

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    • 71.97.105.43 wrote:
      Zioneig wrote:
      24.239.237.215 wrote:
      68.14.69.102 wrote:
      Zioneig wrote:
      Fawtyfawnullandvoid wrote:

      Siamesedream1 wrote: I kind of have the feeling they won't leave Georgia in the TV series.

      It says in the Season 5 casting call that Rick Nd the group Re heading for Washington DC, which is in Virginia -.-
      its actually maryland, not virginia
      Yes, you're right. DC is in Maryland. But the survivors (in the comics at least) recognize that there's nothing left there and are redirected to the Alexandria Safe Zone, which is in Virginia. That might be why someone thought DC was in VA.
      DC is neither Maryland or Virginia..It' DC.
      um... no, atleast google it before you comment
      theyre right. DC is not part of any US State. in the constitution, exclusive jurisdiction by congress.

      Dude I live in maryland, I know that dc is in maryland and part of it

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    • 71.97.105.43 wrote:
      Zioneig wrote:
      24.239.237.215 wrote:
      68.14.69.102 wrote:
      Zioneig wrote:
      Fawtyfawnullandvoid wrote:

      Siamesedream1 wrote: I kind of have the feeling they won't leave Georgia in the TV series.

      It says in the Season 5 casting call that Rick Nd the group Re heading for Washington DC, which is in Virginia -.-
      its actually maryland, not virginia
      Yes, you're right. DC is in Maryland. But the survivors (in the comics at least) recognize that there's nothing left there and are redirected to the Alexandria Safe Zone, which is in Virginia. That might be why someone thought DC was in VA.
      DC is neither Maryland or Virginia..It' DC.
      um... no, atleast google it before you comment
      theyre right. DC is not part of any US State. in the constitution, exclusive jurisdiction by congress.

      It's it's own jurisdiction, yes. It's between Maryland and Virginia, though, so I think people were just trying to pin point the nearest state to it that the survivors would be traveling to. In the case of the comics, once they reach D.C. and see all is lost (and that Eugene is a liar liar pants on fire), they redirect themselves towards Virginia and the Alexandria Safe Zone.

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    • 68.14.69.102 wrote:
      Hannah-may wrote:
      86.164.229.39 wrote:
      This is the biggest and most obviouse trap ive seen in my life ricks groups been living at the prison for an estimated 4-6 months and daryl and michonne have never seen a sign for terminus on there supply runs or hunt for the govonor then all of a sudden a sign pops up out of no were suspisous much. plus you all saw how the gates to it were all unlocked no person in the right mind would leave there front door unlocked, no guards aswell. finally you have the lady doing ironing who the hell does ironing outside. you saw her face it wasnt the welcoming look it was the fake smile im going to eat you all look. Im starting to see why people in ricks group are dying like flys none of them have any common sense with the exception of Rick Daryl and Michonne even carl has more common sense. my bet is eugene will be eaten he is the fatest one there the hunters would get a good week of food from him. then it will be abrahams turn.
      LOL:) Your theory about to eat fat Eugene first made me laughing:)
      "Let me make you a plate." Main course, I imagine.

      LOL.If they have fat Eugene there is no reason to eat skinny Beth. So Beth is safe:)

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    • 71.97.105.43 wrote:
      Zioneig wrote:
      24.239.237.215 wrote:
      68.14.69.102 wrote:
      Zioneig wrote:
      Fawtyfawnullandvoid wrote:

      Siamesedream1 wrote: I kind of have the feeling they won't leave Georgia in the TV series.

      It says in the Season 5 casting call that Rick Nd the group Re heading for Washington DC, which is in Virginia -.-
      its actually maryland, not virginia
      Yes, you're right. DC is in Maryland. But the survivors (in the comics at least) recognize that there's nothing left there and are redirected to the Alexandria Safe Zone, which is in Virginia. That might be why someone thought DC was in VA.
      DC is neither Maryland or Virginia..It' DC.
      um... no, atleast google it before you comment
      theyre right. DC is not part of any US State. in the constitution, exclusive jurisdiction by congress.

      Y'all, this is basic knowledge. C'mon now. Of course DC isn't a part of any state.

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    • random fact beth dont know the actors name appeared on a e[isode of the following but go killed off in one epi. maybe we wont see what happend to beth till next season

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    • 74.176.74.190 wrote:

      It is a house that is for sale. LOL http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/825-Windsor-St-SW-Atlanta-GA-30315/2109772088_zpid/

      Use the geo coordinates I provided then. Those will land you right on the roof of the building. The street address was generated by Bing Maps. You can go buy the house across the street, your choice.



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    • Terminus

      TERMINUS

      The above posted address is not correct...but the street is. Just use Google Maps, and go to street level...thats what I did...and before ANYONE says this isn't Terminus...please google image search "Terminus walking dead"....and you'll see. Nice find!!!!
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    • I3racI wrote:
      The above posted address is not correct...but the street is. Just use Google Maps, and go to street level...thats what I did...and before ANYONE says this isn't Terminus...please google image search "Terminus walking dead"....and you'll see. Nice find!!!!


      I posted that location. I found it the hard way by examining aerial images. I live in the area and there is not that many rail yards like that. I listed an auto-generated street address that may not be exact street address of the property with those warehouses on it. Close enough! The geo coordinates I listed are more accurate. I'm not saying I would be the only person who could find this location, but I didn't see it listed anywhere before I made my first post! Is there going to be folks that make a fuss? Well YEAH! Always! :oD!!

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    • I'm very surprised someone who lives live in MD thinks Washington DC is a political entity that is part of the Maryland. Yes, I believe that a majority of its land is on the MD side of the Potomac, but a significant portion is in the VA side and it is common knowledge nationwide that it is its own political entity. Hence the term "DMV"  DC, Virginia, Maryland. Is it really necessary to aggressively attack ppl? Especially when they are right? Why such hostility especially since you were incorrect? It's unnecessary. 

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    • The District of Columbia started as a federal district to house the US gov, but it was deeded to the IMF in 1944 by the Breton Woods Agreement. Sounds crazy, but a group of private banking magnates own Washington DC. While assembled from land taken from Maryland and Virginia, it never was a US state, nope. AAMOF, DC residents could not vote in federal elections until 1961 with the passage of the 23rd amendment. Some of DC was given back to Virginia at one point.

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    • Let's get away from Season 5's D.C. trek and back to Terminus, shall we? Trap, yes. Hunters, no. In the comics, the Hunters are far too lazy, inept and impatient to hunt or trap wild game, claiming they're "too fast." So they switched to easier, more gullible prey in humans. But they don't even put much effort into traps for human prey. They never came up with anything nearly as elaborate as the funeral home "trap" or Terminus. They aren't that clever or patient.

      They're the sort of people who eat their own children first, because it was convenient and easy. They wouldn't stock a pantry with food they could eat and keep a funeral home tidy and dress up the dead, or drive along miles of railway lines putting up signs for sanctuary, sending out radio broadcasts and then actually putting together a viable refuge. It's not their style. I don't think the Hunters will show up until Season 5, after the group is on the road to D.C., out of their comfort zones and vulnerable (like in the comics).

      So, while I agree Terminus is probably too good to be true and has some ulterior motive lurking within, it's not cannibalism. Plus, this storyline makes more sense for the first half of season 5, to temper what will likely be another traveling arc as the survivors make the trek to D.C. There has to be some obstacles in there for them to keep it interesting, right? I think that's when and where we'll see the Hunters.

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      In the meantime, we'll see Beth again in one viable piece at some point. Either she's at Terminus or she'll show up with Gabriel some point in Season 5 while Rick and the others are on the road to D.C. That's essentially when they meet Gabriel and take refuge from the Hunters in his church.

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    • Okay, here are my thoughts on the Terminus and the future of TWD. I believe that it is, in fact, Negan's group, but hold out and let me explain why I think this. (Pretty long term planning on my part.)

      • May contain light comic spoilers*

      I believe that Abraham, Rosita, and Eugene will not stay at Terminus, instead choosing to follow the path to DC, just like they will in the comics. But the other people i.e. Maggie, Glenn, Bob, Sasha, and Tara will stay there. 

      I believe that Rick and his group will meet up with Abraham and his group and be convinced to go to DC. They'll converge with Tyresse and Carol. Now their are three groups. The Terminus group and the DC group, and Daryl's group, the Wonderer's. 

      Season 5's main focus will be the journey to DC. I don't know about the Wonderer's plotline, I think that will be an AMC original, maybe the hunt for Beth (but I can't see Daryl convincing them to drop everything to hunt for some girl.) I think probably that Rick's journey there will be him being hunted by Daryl's group for most of the time, until that eventually comes to pass, probably during the mid season finale of season 5. I think that Daryl will no be able to overcome the loss of Beth, because she was the one person that actually loved him for himself, (not in a romantic way, no shipping war) and made him feel human, and without her, he'll slip into the Wonderer's mindset and try to kill Rick.

      As for Terminus, I think it will be a sub-sub-sub plot during season 5. Something that is checked in on once every three episodes for the first part of the season while the main focus is on the DC trip and Daryl, and then it slowly gets longer and longer as Glenn's group gets more involved they realize that there is something completely wrong with Terminus. They could be cannibals, or something different, I don't know.

      The DC group, at the end of season 5, comes to DC to find nothing, and then devoid of hope, find Alexandria, the safe haven that's actually safe, and that's the season 5 cliffhanger, the new world of Alexandria. I think they'll draw from comic book material a lot during season 5, because they're once again going on the road, and that's when the comics really shined.

      As the show transitions to season 6, things at Terminus finally come to head. There is an even focus on establishing Alexandria, and following the events of Terminus, and it focuses of Terminus completely for the final three episodes of season 6 mid season finale. Glenn and his group plan to overthrow the corruptness that is Terminus. He ultimately fails, but in comes a group of men that deal with Terminus, and the mid season finale of season 6 introduces Negan. 

      The DC group settle in Alexandria and follow that life and at the return of season 6 part 2, the mid season premiere, the TV show aligns with "A Larger World" and we slowly get introduced to other groups, from Rick's perspective.

      At the remains of Terminus, Negan sets himself up as the Savior of the people. Everyone follows him without questions, including the former Prison people. As season 6 nears an end, Negan has established a successful trade route between the Hilltop, but there are hints that things with Negan aren't as good as they could be. 

      As season 7 begins, time has passed, and Rick has settled in Alexandria, and crosses occasionally with the Hilltop survivors. It is shown that Negan has been using force to get the food that he wants, just like in the comics, and the Hilltop people ask him for help. At this point, the show it closer to the comics, and the finale of season 7 is the beginning of 'All Out War." 

      Season 8 then becomes a shorter season, consisting of only 8-10 episodes with no mid season finale, and the war is depicted in all it's glory. I believe that Rick will kill Glenn in the tv show, and that sets off the war, and the plot twist is that Rick, was in fact the real "Negan." My belief is that Negan will be a bad guy in the TV show, but that Rick will be the real villain. He had good intentions, and then the world destroyed him. The war will consist of friend shooting friend, ally betraying ally, and family killing family. Season 8 ends with Rick killing Negan having everyone turn on him because the TV show has made him the bad guy, and Carl will have to kill his dad, and then assume the role of the new leader.

      Season 8 ends with the war over, and Carl and Michonne along with some other survivors walking away from the burning rubble with a voice over of Carl lamenting the loss of his father, stating that in this world, no one is safe, and that humans are bad and all that stuff that has happened defined the history of the new world. 

      And as the final moments of season 8 happen, they walk over a hill where they see a new group of people, led by a woman, the one on the cover of 126, and Carl turns to Michonne and says "It just never ends does it." And then we wait for season 9. 

      These are just my thoughts of where Terminus will take us in the future, and what it means for the series as a whole. Knowing the TV show, I'm undoubtedly so far off it's crazy, but it's just my prediction.

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    • WOW. You win.

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    • 74.143.72.98 wrote:
      Okay, here are my thoughts on the Terminus and the future of TWD. I believe that it is, in fact, Negan's group, but hold out and let me explain why I think this. (Pretty long term planning on my part.)
      • May contain light comic spoilers*

      I believe that Abraham, Rosita, and Eugene will not stay at Terminus, instead choosing to follow the path to DC, just like they will in the comics. But the other people i.e. Maggie, Glenn, Bob, Sasha, and Tara will stay there. 

      I believe that Rick and his group will meet up with Abraham and his group and be convinced to go to DC. They'll converge with Tyresse and Carol. Now their are three groups. The Terminus group and the DC group, and Daryl's group, the Wonderer's. 

      Season 5's main focus will be the journey to DC. I don't know about the Wonderer's plotline, I think that will be an AMC original, maybe the hunt for Beth (but I can't see Daryl convincing them to drop everything to hunt for some girl.) I think probably that Rick's journey there will be him being hunted by Daryl's group for most of the time, until that eventually comes to pass, probably during the mid season finale of season 5. I think that Daryl will no be able to overcome the loss of Beth, because she was the one person that actually loved him for himself, (not in a romantic way, no shipping war) and made him feel human, and without her, he'll slip into the Wonderer's mindset and try to kill Rick.

      As for Terminus, I think it will be a sub-sub-sub plot during season 5. Something that is checked in on once every three episodes for the first part of the season while the main focus is on the DC trip and Daryl, and then it slowly gets longer and longer as Glenn's group gets more involved they realize that there is something completely wrong with Terminus. They could be cannibals, or something different, I don't know.

      The DC group, at the end of season 5, comes to DC to find nothing, and then devoid of hope, find Alexandria, the safe haven that's actually safe, and that's the season 5 cliffhanger, the new world of Alexandria. I think they'll draw from comic book material a lot during season 5, because they're once again going on the road, and that's when the comics really shined.

      As the show transitions to season 6, things at Terminus finally come to head. There is an even focus on establishing Alexandria, and following the events of Terminus, and it focuses of Terminus completely for the final three episodes of season 6 mid season finale. Glenn and his group plan to overthrow the corruptness that is Terminus. He ultimately fails, but in comes a group of men that deal with Terminus, and the mid season finale of season 6 introduces Negan. 

      The DC group settle in Alexandria and follow that life and at the return of season 6 part 2, the mid season premiere, the TV show aligns with "A Larger World" and we slowly get introduced to other groups, from Rick's perspective.

      At the remains of Terminus, Negan sets himself up as the Savior of the people. Everyone follows him without questions, including the former Prison people. As season 6 nears an end, Negan has established a successful trade route between the Hilltop, but there are hints that things with Negan aren't as good as they could be. 

      As season 7 begins, time has passed, and Rick has settled in Alexandria, and crosses occasionally with the Hilltop survivors. It is shown that Negan has been using force to get the food that he wants, just like in the comics, and the Hilltop people ask him for help. At this point, the show it closer to the comics, and the finale of season 7 is the beginning of 'All Out War." 

      Season 8 then becomes a shorter season, consisting of only 8-10 episodes with no mid season finale, and the war is depicted in all it's glory. I believe that Rick will kill Glenn in the tv show, and that sets off the war, and the plot twist is that Rick, was in fact the real "Negan." My belief is that Negan will be a bad guy in the TV show, but that Rick will be the real villain. He had good intentions, and then the world destroyed him. The war will consist of friend shooting friend, ally betraying ally, and family killing family. Season 8 ends with Rick killing Negan having everyone turn on him because the TV show has made him the bad guy, and Carl will have to kill his dad, and then assume the role of the new leader.

      Season 8 ends with the war over, and Carl and Michonne along with some other survivors walking away from the burning rubble with a voice over of Carl lamenting the loss of his father, stating that in this world, no one is safe, and that humans are bad and all that stuff that has happened defined the history of the new world. 

      And as the final moments of season 8 happen, they walk over a hill where they see a new group of people, led by a woman, the one on the cover of 126, and Carl turns to Michonne and says "It just never ends does it." And then we wait for season 9. 

      These are just my thoughts of where Terminus will take us in the future, and what it means for the series as a whole. Knowing the TV show, I'm undoubtedly so far off it's crazy, but it's just my prediction.

      Are u Kirkman? :)

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    • The only flaw in that is that Kirkman confirmed we won't see Negan any time soon. Plus, Negan is part of the whole Alexandria story line. They're still in GA and have yet to make the trek to VA where Negan's stronghold is located. It's much too far out of their way to make an ellaborate secondary base at Terminus.

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    • SPOILER ALERT! The following spoiler has been posted on IMDB for quite a while now describing s05e01: "Rick and the group are heading to Washington D.C., where they meet new danger and a new enemy. Once again, Rick must do whatever it takes to keep the rest of the group safe" I'm sorry I read it a few episodes back to begin with, but it made it clear to me that the group would get back together, likely at this Terminus location, and we see what happens after Terminus. Previews keep using some kind of weird audio Terminus stuff that sounds like a brainwashing technique, they show Rick and the boy involved in some violence at Terminus, and then the weird room full of candles and perhaps some kind of cult objects scattered around. Doesn't look like this Terminus place is full of warm fuzzies, nope. =8^O We'll be finding out shortly. :o)

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    • If they are going to extend Terminus into season 5 it might be interesting if this is where Rick looses his hand. Basically they have all of Rick's group caught and Rick being the leader they start by eating him first hoping it will demoralize the group.

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    • Ten Tailed Fox wrote: I'd say its a trap. Never underestimate what damage The Walking Dead can do in only two episodes. Keep in mind that the entire Governor attack only took one. Sunday could be a reunion/introduction to the trap, and the Season Finale is the battle/escape from said trap.

      The entire battle took 12 minutes. I was hoping for at least half an episode.

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    • I look better in a lab coat than a fedora wrote:
      If they are going to extend Terminus into season 5 it might be interesting if this is where Rick looses his hand. Basically they have all of Rick's group caught and Rick being the leader they start by eating him first hoping it will demoralize the group.

      I wonder if they are done with the Terminus shooting location in Atlanta? And then, if they have shot any of season 5 yet? Once exposed, I would think such a huge mob would descend on the Terminus shooting location that it would make shooting anything there for season 5 a serious PITA. With that, they may end season 4 with the group leaving Terminus never to return. Maybe somebody can offer some indication of their shooting habits, and how much they try to avoid fans descending on shooting locations?

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    • They won't begin shooting Season 5 until about Late April or Early May.

      Is it possible (besides Gareth being a version of Father Gabriel) that Terminus is a sort of revamped version of the Hilltop Colony? And Gareth is a version of Paul Monroe (a Jesus-like character who no one really trusts, but isn't necessarily bad) or Gregory (or both?)? It would be another explanation for the cross on the back of the car and it would mean he took Beth in an attempt to save her. He could even be a combination of Paul Monroe and Gabriel?

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    • What I was thinking about the shooting. We've had a pretty cold March here and they usally wait until spring is set in better to start shooting upcoming seasons. I could always drive down to the Terminus shooting location but I suspect everything there is long gone. Gas isn't cheap and it's about 35 miles from me. Anybody here been there yet?

      I don't read the comic version and it sounds like a lots of folks are comparing the two. In the teaser preview, a room with candles is shown. In that room appeared to be some Christian religious icons, so maybe some kind of kooky cult leader is there as suspected? Whatever is there, it sure looks like creepy weirdo stuff! :oD I reran ep 13 and I see there is a cross on the back window of the mystery car, yes. I missed that detail. Looks like a big pile of stuff is set to come together at once. Sunday should be great fun for everyone!

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    • Judging by the New Zealand previews, they're going to incorporate the Carl-almost-gets-raped plot into the Terminus plot, specifically with Joe's group, substituting Abraham (who is there in the comics) for Michonne. The preview shows Carl getting held at knife-point by one of Joe's men, Rick looking pretty damn pissed, and Michonne holding Carl the same way Abraham did when they finally got him free in the comics. If all of that is true, this is going to be one hell of a roller coaster episode.

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    • I guess we now know what Terminus us. Now that we know (or have a much better idea) what Terminus holds for the groups, it is kind of fun to scroll up and read all the predictions (even my own).

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